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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:17 PM
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Here's Hotline on the DNC speeches (none dare call it dull, but I will.)
February 02, 2007

DNC WInter Meeting: Hillary Clinton On The Stump

Standing ovations: 3

Snip…

Subtle Theme: I'm Hillary Clinton.

Overt Theme: I'm Hillary Clinton, and even though I'm in Congress, that's OK, because we're going to hold Pres. Bush to the fire. Also: I'm Hillary Clinton.

Bragging: "I'm Hillary Clinton." "I'm not here to today just to start a campaign." "I grew up in a middle class family in the middle of America." "If I had been president in October of 2002, I would not have started this war." "If we in Congress don't end this war by January of 2009, as president, I will." "I expect to busy in the White House in January of 2009." "Lifetime of experience and qualifications." "We can elect the first women president."

Playing to the crowd: Thanks the DNC members and state chairs. "Hello Democrats!" mentions "universal health care.:" Proposes putting oil company profits into a strategic energy fund. "I am not running for president to put band aids on our problems." "fighting for more than 35 years"
I know a thing or two about winning campaigns." "When our pary and our candidates are attacked, we have got to stand up and fight back."

Cliches: 'I'm in, I'm in to win." Becaue we need ot take our country back. We need to work together. Put the country "back on the right track." "Things are just not right." "We need to start standing up for the American worker again." "I want to renew that promise of America." "We're working to push this agenda forward."
"People are tired of politics as usual, with good reasons." "We may even be falling further and further behind."

Discordant note:: Voice climbed into a yell five times.

Snip…

Howard Dean suck up : Thanks her "long-time friend" for "helping to lead the charge" in '06.

Self-deprecation : obligatory health care reference

Blooper: Mentioned "band aids," a trademarked curity strip brand, rather than "health strips."


February 02, 2007

DNC Winter Meeting: Ex-Sen. John Edwards On The Stump

Standing ovations : 5

Snip…

Subtle Theme: I make you cry. I make your hearts bleed. So vote for me, because it doesn't have to be that way. I'm the only one of these turkeys who has guts. Hillary and Obama are calculating. I'm real.

Overt Theme: There are major problems. It's our duty to fix them. Bad things don't have to happen. "This is not the time for political calculation. It's the time for political courage." "Silence is betrayal."

Bragging: Nothing, really.

Playing to the crowd: Uses death of Molly Ivins to say how important it is to "address women's health issues in our country.:" "union brothers and sisters" "Silence is a betrayal not to stop this president's plan to escalate the war." "We can not be satisfied with passing non-binding resolutions we know the president will ignore." "men and women who worked with their hands." "The unions, the men and women or organized labor. They will never lack the backbone to stand up to their workers." "It is time to be patriotic about something other from a war."

Cliches: "Will you stand up..." "It's time we stood up for an energy policy that's not dictated by the profits of big oil companies." "It is time for us to stand up for the real promise for America." "Tomorrow begins today."

Discordant note:: none

Snip…

Howard Dean suck up : None.

Self-deprecation : None

Blooper: none


February 02, 2007

DNC Winter Meeting: Ret. Gen. Wes Clark

Who: Ret. Gen. Wes Clark

Standing ovations : 0

Snip…

Subtle Theme:I'm a general. This is a national security election.

Overt Theme: I'm a general. This is a national security eleciton.

Bragging: Clark was in the military for 34 years. "Over 34 years," in fact. "I know all of the units. I know many of the commanders. A lot of them worked for me.:" "I joined the military at the age of 17." "Fought in Vietnam." "Helped create the national security strategy of the United States." "I helped end a war in Korea, prevent one in Bosnia" and saved the Balkans.

Playing to the crowd: "A woman only makes 77 cents on the dollar to a man." "Where is the equality in America?"

Cliches: "It's not enough to be right. We must also be strong." "re-energize the American spirit." "Let's remember who we are as Americans."

Discordant note: A Clinton jibe? Some of the "problems existed before took office."

Snip…

Howard Dean suck up : 50 state strategy, um-hum. Dean's doing great.

Self-deprecation : None

Blooper: John Mayer's "waiting on the world to change" was his intro/exit song.


February 02, 2007

DNC Winter Meeting: Barack Obama On The Stump

Who: Sen. Barack Obama

Standing ovations : 2

Snip…

Subtle Theme: The media sucks. I'm authentic. ("This is not a contest for the TV cameras. It's a contest for America.")

Overt Theme: "Democrats, this is not a game." Don't settle; follow your dreams. I'll restore hope.

Bragging: Subtly reminds audience that he oppopsed the war from the beginning. Then, he explictly mentions that he "publicly, frequently" opposed it.

Playing to the crowd: "The times are too serious to let the cynics win this time." The Iraq war "should have never been waged." Promises health care for all "by the end of the first term of the next president." "We don't have to send our young people off to fight if we make sacrifices here at home." Says every candidate should put forth a plan to get out of Iraq.

Cliches: "We have always been at our best in American when we aim high." "This is our time." "It is time for us to turn the page." "That's what we offer the American people: hope." "Together, we can hope."

Discordant note: "We internalize those fears."

Snip…

Howard Dean suck up : 50 state strategy, baby.

Self-deprecation : Sometimes, he feels like he's on American Idol. Will he be voted off the island?

Blooper: None. Although he did criticize the media for focusing on campaign gaffes, rather than on crying children.



February 02, 2007

DNC Winter Meeting: Chris Dodd On The Stump

Who: Sen. Chris Dodd

Standing ovations : 1

Snip…

Subtle Theme: GIve me, Chris Dodd, a chance before you make up your mind. I'm a Democrat's Democrat.

Overt Theme: Let's ignite the passion of the American people. We need to pay attention their dreams and aspirations. "I'm am an optimist."

Bragging: Reminds the crowd that he was general chairman of the DNC, and mentions SC Dem / ex chair Don Fowler.. "I'm a strong Democrat."

Playing to the crowd: "We're finally going to have a debate over the war in Iraq." "It's time for a change in Iraq, and we're going to insist upon it, and I ask your support for that effort." "We're not going to take fear as an answer any longer in America." Promises to introduce a bill overturning "the horrible torture bill" that Pres. Bush signed into law. Also promises to "bring our troops out of Iraq." Bashes the "meaningless" Warner resolution that Sen. Hillary Clinton and other Dems have said they'll support.

Discordant note: "Let me tell you how important it is to be bipartisan in this country."

Snip…

Uses of the word "middle class" 1

Howard Dean suck up : Recalls how Dean's speech 4 years ago "ignited the Democratic Party" and praised the 50 State Strategy

Self-deprecation : Recalls that he was once introduced as a "great leader of the Western world," and his sister teased him. "I'm the only candidate who gets mail from the AARP and from diaper services."

Blooper: Said America will elect its 43rd president in '08.




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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:21 PM
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1. Please show me where Hillary fought back when OUR PARTY and Candidates were attacked
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 01:24 PM by blm
in 2002, 2004, and 2006?

In fact, Hillary REFUSED to back up our nominee in 2004 and 2004 when he called for Rumsfeld to go THREE different times.

Hillary also stayed closer to Bush on all military issues than with our Dem nominee.

Hillary JOINED Bush and McCain on their attack against Kerry and validated the RW lie machine that he 'insulted the troops' when she knew it was absolutely FALSE to say so.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:21 PM
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2. Re: blooper of 43rd president - one president served twice, so it's not a blooper.
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 01:24 PM by TwilightZone
Grover Cleveland served twice. He was the president in the 22nd and 24th presidencies.

Therefore, the person elected in '08 will indeed be only the 43rd person to serve.

On edit: Hillary's blooper was "band aids"? Wow, talk about digging deep.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:50 PM
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8. Or if you want to count Cleveland twice, Bush was never elected 43rd President
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:05 PM
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10. Bush wasn't elected either way!
:)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:35 PM
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3. Blooper for John Edwards; dumping on the new Cong. Democratic majority.
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 01:36 PM by FrenchieCat
Hotline's blooper; not realizing that candidates bused their audience in, so standing ovation don't mean a thing...in particular if there is one candidate repeating "Stand up" 20 times.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:48 PM
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7. So Edward's brought his own cheering section? n/t
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:16 PM
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11. You've made this claim several times
do you have any evidence of this?

Julie
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:38 PM
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16. Evidence?
You are fond of saying this but I see no proof offered to support this claim.

candidates bused their audience in

If you're going to post it all over, provide evidence. We know you would accept nothing less in relation to a comment on Clark, especially a disparaging one!

Julie
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:36 PM
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4. I saw Edwards, Clark, and Obama's speech
Edwards was by far the best. Obama was good. Clark was boring and dull. He introduced himself to a crowd that already knows him. He had a chance to really connect with the crowd on national security issue and instead said "I was in the military".

Edwards included stories into the speech, stayed on message, and got a good reaction from the crowd.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:45 PM
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5. Fun reading your resume and my growing interest in
certain candidates causes me to be leaning in the direction of Gen. Clark and Dodd as they give you a real idea of who and what they stand for. Thanks for post.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:47 PM
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6. I remember reading that Obama mentioned having to hold your nose to vote
for someone in 04. Um, I think that is insulting.
As Senator Clinton, I don't recall her fighting for anyone than herself. Oh, and I vividly remember the stab in the back she gave to Kerry. That I will never forget.
And, Edwards got the most standing ovations? Well he is in practice from 04.

That all said, I miss Kerry. He was giving some "wow" speeches last year.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:00 PM
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9. Obama didn't mention 2004.
He said that people are tired of holding their nose and voting for the lesser of two evils.

I don't even think he said Democrats, but used the word voters.

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:23 PM
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12. Fun read, although ignoring Dennis is so 2003
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:44 PM
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13. video of any of this?
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:56 PM
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14. Video
should be up on DNC site...

I'm at work and so was only able to pay half attention to the C-Span stream...I tried the DNC stream but it was too busy....but one thing I do know was that Wes' intro song was Johnny Cash's version of "Won't Back Down" (which I think is absolutely perfect for him)....so I don't know what Hotline's talking about up there....
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:56 PM
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15. On DNC site now, but they won't let you fast forward...
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 02:57 PM by 48percenter
you have to suffer through 10 minutes of pre-activity futzing, and they used a bad buzzing mike.
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