EISENHOWER WAS RIGHT ON THE MONEY

[HowHasItComeToThis]

THIS WHOLE POLICE ACTION "WAR" IS ABOUT PROFITS FOR THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, NO MORE, NO LESS.

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[leftofthedial]

1. America has been all about profits for the MIC since the end of WWII

no more, no less.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

2. Thats right.

Endless war for endless profit.

[FormerDittoHead]

3. Now, now. Democrats don't want to appear being "weak on defense"!!!

HEAVEN FORBID should we spend less on the military than the rest of the world COMBINED!

POINT ME to the Democrat running for President who wants to slash, Slash, SLASH! the military and they'll have my vote!

[FrenchieCat]

4. Well....

"I think General Eisenhower was exactly right. I think we should be concerned about the military industrial complex. I think if you look at where the country is today, you've consolidated all these defense firms into a few large firms, like Halliburton, with contacts and contracts at the highest level of government. You've got most of the retired Generals, are one way or another, associated with the defense firms. That's the reason that you'll find very few of them speaking out in any public way. I'm not. When I got out I determined I wasn't going to sell arms, I was going to do as little as possible with the Defense Department, because I just figured it was time to make a new start.

But I think that the military industrial complex does wield a lot of influence. I'd like to see us create a different complex, and I'm going to be talking about foreign policy in a major speech tomorrow, but we need to create an agency that is not about waging war, but about creating the conditions for Peace around the world. We need some people who will be advocates for Peace, advocates for economic development not just advocates for better weapons systems. So we need to create countervailing power to the military industrial complex."- Wes Clark
http://www.nhpr.org/node/5339

Clark: Don't spare Pentagon
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/25/elec04.prez.debate/
"We're faced with a very serious deficit problem. We need to keep the--we need to go back to the top 2 percent and repeal those tax cuts. We need to put all the government spending programs on the table, including the military programs.
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Clark talked of the Pentagon Budget as a make want budget. He wants to reshift the investment from weapons programs to Veterans/soldiers programs and cut the pork.

Only Nixon could go to China, and the only Democrat who can cut the Pentagon Budget is Gen. Wes Clark.

[FormerDittoHead]

6. I like the sound of that. I LIKE Kucinich, but he is less electable than Sen Clinton. ...

Now if only Clark would RUN...

[FrenchieCat]

8. Well I do believe that Kucinich and Clark certainly have the right idea....

Because Kucinich's peace Department is pretty much what Clark is mentioning in that 2nd paragraph on the MIC and Ike.

And I'll tell you, Clark knows the Pentagon inside out! He knows where the bodies are buried....he knows where the pork is...and he's diplomatic enough to get rid of it. One doesn't negotiate with 19 countries before every move during a war and not know how to handle the likes of two parties.

Clark is a perceived moderate who is actually more liberal than many others. He can get away with it...must be a side benefit for having worn a uniform for 34 years.

[Greeby]

5. Kucinich (along with the Progressive Caucus) has proposed a 15% cut

Which he acknowledges as modest

[Dean Martin]

7. Didn't Eisenhower also say we shouldn't be the world's police force?

But if he did, I recall he was the first to send advisors to Vietnam, so.....

[Greeby]

9. From what I glean from my limited knowledge of that time

It seems that just as today Bush is the frontman for Cheney, and the psychopathic zealots who cluster around the evil old bastard. So Eisenhower was, knowingly or unknowningly, a frontman for that traitorous pair, The Dulles brothers

[Dean Martin]

10. but hey, the got their own airport

so everything came out all right.....:eyes:

[MH1]

11. I think you are right, that is what this is about. n/t