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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:45 PM
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Doesn't Edwards bashing of Senate Dems look a little silly now?
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 08:47 PM by Clarkie1
Correct me if I'm wrong, but given the events of today...doesn't he seem a little out of touch with the political reality? Maybe Edwards should have just stayed in the senate if he feels so strongly. Come to think of it, what exactly did Edwards do when he was there anyway?


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards spent much of his address to Democratic National Committee members Friday urging Congress to use its power to stop a troop increase in Iraq, saying the non-binding resolution condemning the president's policy does not go far enough.

"We cannot be satisfied with passing nonbinding resolutions that we know this president will ignore," Edwards told party faithful in the Washington Hilton ballroom. "We have the power to stop the escalation of this war."

Edwards did not point out any other candidate by name when he criticized Congress for not taking further steps to end the war, but both Sens. Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois -- among the frontrunners for the Democratic nomination -- have backed the nonbinding resolution that Edwards criticized.

"It is betrayal not to stop the president's plan when we have the responsibility, the power, and the actual tools to prevent it," Edwards told the cheering crowd.

The Democrats' 2004 vice presidential nominee has spent the early stages of his second presidential campaign repeatedly calling for more congressional action against the president's Iraq policy, while urging the party to embrace some of its more liberal principles.

"We don't need to redefine the Democratic Party, we need to reclaim the Democratic Party," Edwards said to a standing ovation, one of five he received during his speech.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:50 PM
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1. We can't get 60 to support a non-binding resolution...
Where do critics suppose we are going to get the 60 for a binding one...

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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:53 PM
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3. That's what I'm saying.
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 08:55 PM by Clarkie1
Once again, Edwards does not impress....not that I'd ever vote for Clinton either given her IWR vote. :-)
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:54 PM
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4. this is what I keep trying to tell the more radical ones. That without
a majority of at least 60 we cannot do shit. This is the way it works. It sucks but, it's fact. They can call for funding cut off but, to do so and actually do it, the votes have to be there.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:56 PM
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5. That is true...
And judging by the way Republicans are reacting to the non-binding resolution, maybe that isn't so meaningless after all...at the very least it would be an on the record rebuke of the policy...

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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:52 PM
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2. Edwards is trying a new image as the new Dean. I would not mind it so much if
he actually did something while in the Senate. But, he waits till he is not and then feels it okay to blast the others knowing how things work in the Senate. Proceedures and protocol.
If he was more brave while there or introduced some major legislation I would not mind so much.
It just feels like he is playacting or trying to pander to the netroots and they fall for it.
this worries me as I hate to see them get let down when the real guy emerges. But, it's up to people to support who they want and I hope their trust is well placed and that I am wrong.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:03 PM
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6. no......he was right
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 09:03 PM by madrchsod
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2718467
BREAKING: Feingold Excoriates Fellow Dems for Failing to 'Play Hardball' in Ending Iraq War

i guess feingold looks a little silly also
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:05 PM
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7. Feingold is not tender for Edwards either
(from your link)


...
Feingold was also critical of John Edwards who, he says, has been "masquerading" as a critic of the war, but whose proposal so far only calls for refusing to fund the proposed Bush troop escalation in Iraq. Even he, Feingold said, fails in his rhetoric to call for withdraw and a full defunding of the current debacle.
...
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:09 PM
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8. I like Edwards. He's okay. But Feingold is the real deal. I still say Gore/Clark '08, since Russ
isn't running.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:33 AM
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17. Possible theme song for Edwards based on Feingold's statement...
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:11 PM
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9. I think so. He hauled ass out of the senate because he didn't think
he could win reelection. Now since he no longer has to vote for anything, he's full of righteous indignation. Me thinks Edward's shister training is beginning to show.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:20 PM
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10. Does bashing Edwards seem silly today?
Edwards was bashing nobody. Congress is not above criticism.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:42 AM
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11. BINGO!
Neither is Edwards above criticism!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:47 AM
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12. No.
I am glad to hear it. Glad to hear Feingold say it also.
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:57 AM
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13. Only three certainties in life..
death, taxes, and Clarkies bashing Edwards...

What's with the fixation? It certainly isn't reciprocal.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:46 AM
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16. It must be the color of his batting eyes.....
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 03:53 AM by FrenchieCat
Or is it his chin? I'm sure you know....:loveya:
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KingofNewOrleans Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:38 AM
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21. I'm confused are you
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 10:41 AM by KingofNewOrleans
talking about Edwards or Clark?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:11 AM
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14. Edwards is trying to be Bobby Kennedy, the problem is...
That Bobby Kennedy opposed the Vietnam War in 1968 when the country was deeply divided over it, Edwards is opposing it when the majority of the country is clearly against it.

It would kinda be like if Bobby Kennedy (assuming he hadn't been assassinated) supported the war in 1968 and then decided to run for President again in 1972 and oppose the war.

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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:12 AM
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15. Oh that Edwards .....
Why I outta ....
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:42 AM
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18. But this is the new Edwards
Forget about the old Edwards who co-sponsored the IWR in 2002.

This is the New Edwards. A completely new product.

Even if you didn't like the old one -- try the new one !! :)

Now with added anti-war beliefs and troop withdrawal targets !! ;)

PS If "silence is a betrayal" then it means we have to speak out when we catch Edwards using "sweet rhetoric" to criticize the other candidates.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:45 AM
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19. If enough of the blogosphere criticizes him for it, he will soon be praising them.
He will sail wherever the prevailing winds take him.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:29 AM
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20. no
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:38 AM
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22. Sorry, but it's this thread that's silly
stop the obsession.
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