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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:55 PM
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Big mouth Terribly McAwful scapegoats immigrants

Scapegoating Immigrants in 2008

by Matt Stoller, Tue Feb 06, 2007 at 06:44:02 PM EST

Racism is a real problem in this country. I know a lot of people want to think that we've moved beyond race, but what does it say when Hillary Clinton's campaign Chair, Terry McAuliffe, has the following exchange on NPR about immigration.

CALLER: I'm one of those Republicans who helped change the political arrangement by sitting on the sidelines, and if you want to get 10 percent of the Republicans, right now, to vote for Hillary Clinton -- and I would be one of them, and I've been a Republican for 40 years -- you do the following things. You eliminate your support for NAFTA, that was Bill Clinton. Eliminate your support for amnesty and wide-open borders -- Bill Clinton, I've heard him say it many times, and I believe I've heard Hillary say it also -- and you start getting self-deportation of the 20 million illegal aliens here that are taking the jobs, the wages, and the working conditions, and destroying them for working Americans, which I always thought Democrats supported.

TERRY MCAULIFFE: I couldn't agree more. We've got to shut these borders down. These people shouldn't be coming in this country. We need to enforce our border protections. We have to do something for the people who have been here for years and have paid taxes -- you know, we're for the people who have been in this country and paying taxes and raising their family. But for the people who have not been here, who have been here illegally and have taken advantage of the situation, we need to have a plan to get them back to the countries they came from, and more important, which is the first thing John talks about, we have gotta shut these borders down. I couldn't agree more.

... I don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican, we all agree you've gotta shut the borders down. People who are coming into this nation taking our jobs.


We've got to have a plan to 'get them back to the countries they came from'? 'These people'. 'Taking our jobs'. This is straight up Jim Sensenbrenner racism, and an endorsement of the vicious attacks on immigrants we've seen for years (including a jump in KKK membership we're seeing). McAuliffe is a multi-millionaire, having profited handsomely to the tune of $14M from the Global Crossing fiasco, to the detriment of American shareholders. He's also a global elitist, hanging out with the Clinton's on a regular basis, as well as other world leaders. So in his case, immigrants aren't taking his job. In fact, it's a lot more likely that real immigration reform, which would address NAFTA and poverty, would cost him and his friends money. Or maybe he's just a straight up racist. Or maybe, as the caller indicates, McAuliffe believes that 10% of the electorate is composed of racist Republicans that will sit out a election where they have the opportunity to vote against Hillary Clinton. I don't know which explanation makes McAuliffe come out worse.

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UPDATE: The Clinton campaign got right back to me. Hillary Clinton says that McAuliffe speaks for himself.

“These comments do not reflect Senator Clinton’s thinking or her position on immigration.”

“America has been a beacon of opportunity to generations of immigrants and we need an immigration system that respects that heritage while also respecting the rule of law. Senator Clinton supports comprehensive reform that fixes our broken immigration system, strengthens our border security and sanctions employers who break the law. She has supported legislation that provides an earned path to citizenship while respecting the enormous contributions that immigrants make and continue to make to our country.”

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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:57 PM
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1. If Hillarys wants the nod, and I'm sure she does, fire McAwful please. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:57 PM
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2. I wish he wouldn't get so much air time. He's an embarrassment imo. nt
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:57 PM
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3. This deserves a rec for the OP title alone!
Terribly McAwful--haha!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:06 PM
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4. That is a good name for him
His greatest talent is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

One more time . . .

Hillary Clinton may be the frontrunner now,
but we can count on Terry McAuliffe to fix that before that before the primaries start.


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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:14 PM
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5. K&R for McAwful
He led the DNC to defeat!

Give Hillary credit for her fast footwork in putting some distance between herself and her campaign manager, a man that we know speaks for her on all matters... except when it becomes convenient to say he doesn't.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:37 PM
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6. Hot button issue
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 10:38 PM by Robson
Like it or not this is a hot button issue. There are more than a few Democrats and some are new Democratic Congressman that believe that big business and the US Chamber of Commerce are using illegal immigrants to max out their profits and squeeze the standard of living of many Americans. Others believe a strong USA would be more effective at helping Mexico raise their standard of living within their borders. Others like Bush would like to see open borders, millions more illegal or legal immigrants and a consolidated North American Union. I prefer a strong USA, with minimal poverty able to help those countries that are less fortunate.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:12 AM
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7. This is a touchy issue and Democrats
are split on this. Wanting secure borders doesn't mean you are anti-immigrant.

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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:17 AM
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8. It's a touchy issue.
Democrats are split on this because most of us want secure borders and you don't have to be anti-immigrant if you want to limit illegal traffic that brings most of the drugs to the US and quite possibly---terrorists.

The border states are getting hit the worst and they aren't getting much help from the federal government.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:02 PM
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10. Pro American
Agreed. I'm not anti immigrant. I'm pro American worker and against illegal immigration and those rich bastards that use them for their indentured servants. Bottom line I want secure borders and severe punishment for those that would hire them instead of Americans.

So what does that make me? Hopefully a true Democrat.
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gr8dane_daddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 06:52 AM
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9. They tooook our jobs!!!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:09 PM
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11. He's a "POS! and should be in the Mary Matalin "Hall of Fame" along with Kate O'Bierne!
Gack...****COUGH**** CHOKE!!!...:puke:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 03:05 AM
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12. McAwful, coming to a town near you:
Clinton's campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, is on a national book tour to promote his memoir. He is using the tour to meet with major donors and has asked supporters to commit to Clinton and limit donations to her campaign alone.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:44 PM
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13. Poor Terribly McAwful!
Jerk!
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 10:57 AM
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14. I hope Hillary keeps McAuliffe front and center
Maybe democrats will then realize what an awful candidate Hillary is.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:52 PM
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15. actually, it's scapegoating "illegal" immigrants
I'm sure Mr. Stollar knows that there is a distinction to be made between legal and illegal immigrants, but in his rush to somehow smear HRC through Mr. McCauliffe... he just kind of forgot?

McCauliffe's stance isn't necessarily going to incite the instant outrage amongst Democrats that Mr. Stollar seems to think it will. Illegal immigration is a complex issue , especially in the border states and out here in the west, where it has a far more direct impact than in, say, Massachusetts.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:04 PM
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17. I also find something else to be a little ironic
To the left, NAFTA is bad because it ships our jobs to other countries. However, illegal immigration is GOOD because it... well... allows people from other countries to come HERE and take our jobs.

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 04:53 PM
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18. too much of what the left gets upset about
seems to be based in black and white moral outrage rather that real world problems (or solutions).





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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:47 PM
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19. Very true, but the particular stance that McAuliffe takes isn't really the issue
Terry McAuliffe could have the exact opposite stance on illegal immigration and the same OPer would be ranting and raving about him in the very same manner. It's all about Kerry. McAuliffe blasted Kerry's campaign, and rightfully so, when he called Kerry's effort to unseat Bush "one of the biggest acts of political malpractice in the history of American politics."

That's why the Kerry brigade collectively have their sites set on Terry McAuliffe. It's all got to do with what McAuliffe said about Mr Perfection.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:59 PM
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16. Terry, if you want to stop illegal immigration I've got a much cheaper solution for you
Fine businesses $1 million for every illegal immigrant they hire. That will solve the problem overnight.
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