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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 07:17 PM
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Standoff at Domestic Terrorist compound uses new tactics by cops
Patience replaces pressure, officials say

By Margot Sanger-Katz
Monitor staff
February 04. 2007 10:00AM

Ed Brown first became suspicious of the federal government when he saw news coverage of the standoffs at Ruby Ridge and Waco in the early 1990s. The bloody incidents, in which federal agents clashed violently with extremists, colored his view of the government's relationship with its citizens, he said recently, and led to his involvement in the militia movement.

Nearly 14 years after the conclusion of the Waco siege, Ed Brown believes he may be in the early stages of a similar confrontation.

"This looks like it 'might' turn into another Waco and we may be burned out or killed," he wrote in an e-mail shortly after abandoning his federal tax evasion trial to hole up in his fortified Plainfield home Jan. 12. He was convicted of three felonies in absentia and has a scheduled sentencing in federal court in April.

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Though Brown, and his supporters, who have also invoked the specter of Waco in their communications, may be spoiling for a shootout, they may have to wait a long time. Since Waco, the justice department has rethought its approach to potential standoffs with extremists, and patience has replaced pressure as the primary tactic.

"If you look back at the history of Waco and Ruby Ridge, which may be a decade ago in some people's minds, I think in law enforcement's mind it's not that long ago," said Robert Trestan, civil rights counsel at the Anti-Defamation League in Boston, which trains police officers in how to communicate with political extremists. "There was a substantial loss of law enforcement and civilian life in those cases. They had to take a look at how they approached those cases."

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http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070204/REPOSITORY/702040352
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 07:22 PM
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1. a tax evader is a terrorist? did I miss something?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 07:47 PM
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 10:11 PM
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4. Yes, you did. There's more to this story if you've been following it. n/t
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 11:01 PM
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6. He is when he falls back to a fortified compound nt
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 12:22 AM
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7. How exactly does that work?
terrorist noun
a person who tries to frighten people or governments into doing what he/she wants by using or threatening violence

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorist

Do his actions or demands to see the laws he is accused of violating frighten you?

Do you think his actions or demands to see the laws he is accused of violating frightens the government?

Did you not just condemn all our federal officials to the status of terrorists in the event they fall back to the elaborate bunkers they built (with our money) in the event they feel threatened by force they have no other defense from?

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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 07:50 PM
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3. He wants to be a martyr and blame the government
He has turned away from the path of peace and now he wants to blame others for the violence he will start.

The world has too many people who really deserve sympathy. This guy isn't one of them.
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