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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:16 PM
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John McCain will be 72 in August 08, as opposed to Ronald Reagan
who was 69 when he was elected President. Ronald Reagan was the oldest President ever elected and almost certainly developed Alzheimers during his Presidency.

Will John McCain's age be an issue during the campaign? Should it be?

For what it's worth, he looks awful these days. Maybe he won't even make it that far.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:23 PM
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1. To quote Indiana Jones
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 09:23 PM by Mojambo
"It's not the years, it's the mileage."

McCain will be an incredibly old 72.

It will (and should) be a huge factor.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:27 PM
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5. When I imagine him running against
Obama . . . wow.

Could there be a sharper contrast? Between calmness, ease, and youthful energy -- vs. someone who gets whiter and more ghostly looking every day.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:24 PM
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2. Put a fork in McVain. He's done! HIs advanced age is probably
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 09:24 PM by Kahuna
just enough to give voters who still like him the excuse they need to not vote for him.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:27 PM
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3. Even if he were robust, the odds of surviving two terms aren't on his side at that age
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 09:27 PM by LeftyMom
And he looks like death warmed over in a dodgy microwave. I'd be a bit surprised to see him make it to '08 without a medical incident.

The presidency is hard on people. Clinton looked much more than 8 years older at his farewell than his inauguration. Bush looks a good fifteen years older and seriously ill.

Electing anybody that age is a very bad idea. Even if they were much more qualified and politically to my liking it would worry me a great deal.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:27 PM
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4. dole was 73 years old. dole got nearly 41% of the vote.
He never dropped that pen, either.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:32 PM
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7. 41% means he didn't come very close. It's surprising his age wasn't
a bigger issue, though, since Reagan had announced his own Alzheimers. I guess most people then didn't realize (or acknowledge) that he had probably had it during his Presidency.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:33 PM
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9. He did do some classic stage diving however. n/t
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:01 PM
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22. Yes, but I think Dole looked better in '96 than McCain does now.
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 11:02 PM by smalll
Age has caught up with him. He used to be one of those charmed men in public life who seemed to escape (relatively) the physical ravages of age. Reagan was one of them. But McCain has suffered some serious health issues, and at this point, he doesn't look like a TV Senator's 72, he looks like the man on the street at 72. A real "old man."
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:43 PM
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25. He looks significantly older than my mother in law,
who is more than 20 years his senior.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:30 PM
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6. McCain has kids with Cindy, doesn't he? Several of them? Plus the
one adopted child from Bangladesh -- a gesture I felt was sincere and admirable.

And he was imprisoned in a goddamned cage in SE Asia while a generation or so later a certain Connecticut-born pseudo-cowboy was snorting coke up his nose instead of reporting for guard duty, and so I acknowledge McCain's considerable sacrifice and service to our country.

But his voting record is abominably right-wing. He's a bit of a kook, or if he is not a kook, he plays to the kook percentage in his constituency.

I just want nothing to do with him in the White House. I agree with the OP and with others here that lately he seems desperate and deluded. Supporting the surge in Iraq is way off target. I think his wiring is misfiring.

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:39 PM
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11. I think the word "desperate" is sadly accurate.
He used to be an independent, but it seems now he will do anything to win, including sucking up to the Bushes as much as possible. Whatever he had before that made him different seems to be gone now. I wouldn't trust him with the Presidency.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:44 PM
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12. Agreed. I hope his health is ok, what with his large family and
many friends.

He looked fresh and zippy in New Hampshire in 2000, and when he crushed Dubya there I thought he might be on his way to the White House. Al Gore whipped my guy, Bill Bradley, that year the same night. It had all the makings of a classic campaign.

Then Dubya smeared McCain in South Carolina, and as you say, there's been the sucking up to the Bush agenda ever since, and especially since 9/11.

If he doesn't fare very well in Iowa, his momentum for New Hampshire in 08 will be lessened. Not killed maybe, but slowed.

It could be his last contest.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:00 PM
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15. Even his children are older now.
I just checked Wikipedia. His second set are all adults now, except for the adopted daughter. (Her age isn't given.)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:03 PM
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16. Ah. Thanks for the info, pnwmom. Then it's more urgent than
ever that he head on back to Arizona and get ready to spend time with his grandchildren. They'll likely be along any time now.

And I don't want him running the show from the Oval Office!
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:08 PM
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18. Oh, I think it may be fine for him to run.
Because I can't imagine him beating one of our candidates, frankly.

But if I thought he could, I'd be terrified. I just can't take 8 more years of what we've been having.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:12 PM
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19. That's just it. We've been on a kind of chain gang for 6-8 years,
and we need a break.

Listening to Dubya's press conference this week reminds me that other nations listen to him also, and no wonder they hate our guts. Bush is such a cretinous monkey. I have no quarrel with people of other nations, including Iraq and Iran, and I don't like my president pretending that it's in my best interests to pick bloody fights with those countries.

I think you are absolutely right about our chances against McCain in 08. We whip him like a rented mule.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:42 PM
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24. One of the many things that appeals to me about Obama
is that I think we would once again have a President that the rest of the world could relate to.

His Presidency could be a sign that we are determined to make a change.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:51 PM
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13. Agreed, Old Crusoe.McC sacrificed a lot for his country & is a good man in his way...
...but I dislike his catering to the right wing more and more. Between his age and his deliberatly steering hard right, I don't want him anywhere near the White House.

I wish him a healthy and comfortable retirement in the bosom of his family.

Hekate

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:55 PM
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14. Hekate. Hello to you. Nice to see you tonight on DU.
Yep. McCain needs to return to Arizona, string up the hammock, take a long pull on a cold beer, and sit it out from now on.

He deserves to enjoy his children and grandchildren, and we deserve to have someone a whole lot better in the White House.

Good wishes to you.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:08 PM
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17. Hello back atcha. Nice to see you too.
:hi:

Hekate

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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:33 PM
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8. Obama = briefs... Richardson = boxers... McCain = Depends disposables

Or at least that's what I heard..

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:36 PM
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10. LOL!!!!
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 09:36 PM by pnwmom
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:48 PM
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20. That's gotta become
a classic!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:01 AM
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27. Snap!
:rofl: Got that right!(And he'll need them for more than driving cross country to knock off a rival...)

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:49 PM
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21. It's more than his age
its his health and his temperament. There are 72yr olds out there that could do the job but not him.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:28 PM
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23. And he's looking every minute of it. He looks really bad. He looks
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 11:30 PM by calimary
and acts like his spark plugs are starting to misfire. But then again, ANYONE who thinks bush's surge is worth supporting, especially when he's a combat veteran and POW, and is in a position to know better, has spark plugs that are misfiring. No matter how old they are.

On edit - OMG - somebody gave me another heart! WHOEVER you are, MANY MANY HUGS to ya! THANK YOU SO MUCH! Made my day (and evening)!

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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:53 PM
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26. No one over 70 should be in a position of power in the government
And I am fully aware that people age differently based
on lifestyle issues. But a president' job is very stressful.
I have serious doubts if Reagan could have withstood rigors
of running a war or a serious event such as 911.

Even the SCOTUS should have a age limit. It is ridiculous to
have a 90 year old judge, who has forgotten 90% of law to be
sitting in judgement.

McCain is too old to qualify as a president. And I have great
respect for his service to the country. Not many people could
have endured being tortured in a North Viet-Namese gulag.
Like many have opined here, he won't make it through the primaries.
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cobaindrain Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 03:56 PM
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28. McCain in worse shape physically, slightly better shape mentally
72 is still too old for a first term, especially somebody like McCain who seems like he has trouble lifting his arms over his head. I'm shocked he's lasted this long really.
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