Scarborough calls 17 crossover votes a stinging rebuke for WH

[59millionmorons]

I predicted 10 crossovers so I am surprised of the 17.

[TwilightZone]

1. The Senate vote will be interesting.

Great username, by the way. :)

[blm]

4. There are a number of GOP senators up for re-election in 2008.

So, I expect more than a handful to cross there.

[Buzz Clik]

6. Is there any reason that there will be a vote in the Senate on this?

[TwilightZone]

7. You don't think there will be a vote tomorrow?

Reid scheduled a vote for tomorrow. Do you think it'll be stopped?

From CNN:

Senate to vote Saturday

Moving quickly, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, has called a test vote for Saturday on an identical measure, and several presidential contenders in both parties rearranged their weekend campaign schedules to be present.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/16/us.iraq.ap/index.html

[Buzz Clik]

12. I only ask because the GOP blocked cloture on the Senate resolutions.

[Buzz Clik]

19. And so it was -- gridlock, no cloture, no vote.

[YDogg]

2. Hopefully he will keep saying this.

[AndyA]

3. I was hoping it would be more like 30, but I believed it would be 20.

Oh well, that still shows support is slipping. It will continue to erode as we progress through the year. And I believe this erosion will be escalated (pun intended!) when the shit from the investigations becomes known.

Bush and Cheney have done some really awful things. We here at DU know more about this than the average Murkin, (Bush's pronunciation of American) but when the dirty laundry is aired, it's over for the GOP.

How many times do they think they can get away with this shit? Watergate, Iran Contra, and now Iraq/Bushgate. It has to stop.

[59millionmorons]

8. 30-60

As I posted yesterday the 30-60 crossover was a GOP spin. So they could say in the end that we didn't get close to what was predicted. Even Joe and Ariana just sniffed that out.

[AndyA]

10. I never believed we would ever come close to 60, and I didn't really think

we would get 30, but I was trying to be positive. I tend to be a realist, so I knew even 20 was pushing it with these scumbags, but one can always hold out hope.

(I know it's a wasted effort...)

[AlCzervik]

11. Someone on KO debunked the 30-60 last night, can't remember who though.

[Buzz Clik]

5. Scarborough can be difficult to pin down...

but he is one of the few reasonable voices from the right. He has not been optimistic about the GOP's recent implosion.

[On the Road]

9. Chuck Schumer Said

that they were pursuing a form of the resolution to get the maximum number of votes. That's one reason it's was nonbinding.

He also said that this was the first step and that they were planning to take further measures. I am not convinced they will have the will or interest -- we'll see if that happens.

[Cha]

13. And who were those 17

"crossovers"? :)

[cool user name]

14. There were two dems that voted "nay" ...

I wonder which two?

[Bucky]

16. That thread has been started here (see link)

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll099.xml and

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=230034&mesg_id=230034

[cool user name]

17. Thanks!

:hi:

[Bucky]

15. 17 shouldn't be considered "stinging", except of course the GOP has this lockstep discipline

If people thought for themselves, or we had a congress elected from more swing districts that rewarded moderate politics over divisiveness, losing 17 votes wouldn't be a big deal. But with wingers having hijacked the Republican party, 17 votes is a pretty big deal. This is another measure of a democracy in crisis that 180 Republicans would vote for a such a patently idiotic non-strategy in Iraq.

[Cha]

18. I just saw this from Truthout..

"But Vito Fossella, a Republican whose district includes Staten Island and part of Brooklyn, said the resolution would sound "a clarion call of retreat" and set the nation's foes to wondering where the United States will retreat next."

I didn't think they were that ignorant down there in Brooklyn and Staten Island!



http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021607R.shtml