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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:13 PM
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The First Big Spat (Clinton v. Obama)
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February 22, 2007

The First Big Spat

Anybody else still scratching their head over the Clinton decision to go after Obama over the loss of Hollywood donor David Geffen? Forget what some reporters are reading in to the motivation behind Howard Wolfson's decision (that is baiting Obama over his "above it all" rhetoric). The bottom line: the media has the two leading Democrats fighting over who has more support in Hollywood. Could Karl Rove or any other major Republican strategist ask for a better outcome? But back to the Clinton decision for a minute. A few observations:

-- The Clintons seem hypersensitive about her past.
-- The reaction to the comment was way out of proportion to the comment itself.
-- Is it that hard to find a major Clinton donor who hasn't bashed Obama off the record?
-- This isn't how you avoid being Swiftboated. You can't respond to supposed "Swift Boat" attacks that you have no way of disproving factually.
-- Hollywood liberal and Mo Dowd. That's exactly the frame Clinton needs to be identified with?
-- Vilsack and Richardson must really believe that only Clinton will consider them for the VP slot since both took the opportunity to help her and use Clinton talking points to hit Obama.

As for whether Obama should have responded or not. It's debatable. Yesterday probably wasn't a good day for Clinton and after Obama responded and it became Clinton v. Obama, it turned into a bad day for the Democrats who some had thought were making progress at moving beyond the "Hollywood" stereotype.



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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:15 PM
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1. I would take the word 'Big' out of that headline...
This is a minor blip compared to what's coming next year...

No one is paying attention to this but political junkies and die hard supporters!
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:24 PM
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4. That is true.
Most people have never even heard of this non-story.

Most of DU wouldn't have heard about it if it wasn't for the Hillary Clinton camp responding to Geffen by going after Obama instead.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:19 PM
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2. I wish we would pay more attention to a possible war with Iran
Than this stuff that the media is distracting us with. This election is over a year away.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:25 PM
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5. Did you know Brittany entered
rehab "again"? and one of the lawyers at the Anna Nicole hearing fainted and was offered a protein bar? Come on, there are way more important things going on! :sarcasm:
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:28 PM
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6. Also, Brittany may have shaved her head to Kevin to get DNA
Why isn't this in the headlines? The media is keeping this from us.:sarcasm:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:32 PM
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8. Some information:
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 01:34 PM by ProSense
here and here.

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:09 PM
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9. Amen. This is just bullshit!
In the meantime, what are the Decider and DeadEye up to? :nuke:
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:23 PM
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3. I wish that the mudslinging would stop, but I guess that it is more important

for the candidates to destroy each other than take the presidency back from the GOPigs.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:32 PM
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7. I think what unnerved TeamClinton is the Marc Rich reference, since Scooter Libby
trial also brings back Marc Rich pardon - a pardon that was supposed to be for tax evasion, but Rich was REALLY on the lam for his armsdealing and covert operations for the BFEE and was supposed to be under scrutiny for his roles in IranContra and BCCI.

Scandals that are very much a part of everything happening today, including 9-11, this Iraq war and the Plame outing.
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