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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:49 PM
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Democratic 'war council' prepares binding resolution to limit Iraq deployments.
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 11:26 PM by ProSense

Democrats Seek to Revise 2002 War Authorization

By Shailagh Murray and Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, February 23, 2007; Page A01

Senate Democratic leaders intend to unveil a plan next week to repeal the 2002 resolution authorizing the war in Iraq in favor of narrower authority that restricts the military's role and begins withdrawals of combat troops.

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"I've had enough of 'nonbinding,' " said Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.), who is helping to draft the new Democratic proposal. The 2002 war resolution, he said, is an obvious target.

"The authorization that we gave the president back in 2002 is completely, completely outdated, inappropriate to what we're engaged in today," he said.

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) began calling for a reauthorization of the war early last month and raised it again last week, during a gathering in the office of Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.). Participants included Kerry, Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl M. Levin (Mich.), Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), Jack Reed (R.I.) and Russell Feingold (Wis.). Those Democratic senators have emerged as an unofficial war council representing the caucus's wide range of views.

"We gave the president that power to destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and, if necessary, to depose Saddam Hussein," Biden said of the 2002 resolution in a speech last week before the Brookings Institution. "The WMD was not there. Saddam Hussein is no longer there. The 2002 authorization is no longer relevant to the situation in Iraq."

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Earlier this month Senator Kerry introduced www.setadeadline.com, asking Americans to co-sponsor a binding resolution:

If you agree it is time to set a deadline, come to SetADeadline.com and become a citizen co-sponsor of the legislation.

In addition to setting a deadline, my legislation includes many of the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group and will:

* launch a major diplomatic initiative, the only hope for a resolution in Iraq

* enforce a series of benchmarks to hold Iraqis accountable for meeting key political objectives

* change the American military mission to training Iraqi security forces and counter-terrorism operations

* maintain an over the horizon presence to protect American regional interests.

Now that a new Democratic Congressional majority has convened in the U.S. Capitol, a deadline must be set. The President must respect the real needs of our troops and the will of the American people.

Step by step, we will ensure that he does.

Set A Deadline


BE HEARD:




Senate Kerry appealed to other Democrats:

Dear Colleague:

As the 110th Congress begins debate on Iraq, I will be introducing legislation that offers a comprehensive strategy for achieving a political solution and bringing U.S. troops home within one year. I write to ask you to co-sponsor this legislation.

Eight months ago, thirteen of us stood together in calling for a one year deadline for the redeployment of most U.S. troops from Iraq. I am more convinced than ever that a combination of serious, sustained diplomacy and the enforcement of benchmarks for progress by the Iraqi government, leveraged by a one year deadline for redeployment of U.S. troops, is the best way to achieve our goal of stability in Iraq and security in the region.

Let me emphasize that this strategy does not mean abandoning Iraq in one year: in fact, it provides the President the discretion to leave the minimum number of United States troops necessary to complete the training of Iraqi security forces, go after terrorists, and protect United States facilities and personnel.

Our country is strongest when we work together to craft solutions that are in our nation’s best interest. The bipartisan Iraq Study Group recently issued a series of important recommendations. Many of them, which are consistent with proposals that some here in the Senate have long advocated, are incorporated in this legislation — including launching a major diplomatic initiative, enforcing a series of benchmarks for meeting key political objectives, shifting the military mission to training Iraqi security forces and conducting targeted counter-terrorism operations, and maintaining an over-the-horizon presence to protect our interests throughout the region.



…We must give the Iraqis more control over their own destiny, as they have repeatedly requested — and make them accountable for making the hard political compromises necessary to achieve a lasting political solution. That means recognizing that Iraqi politicians have repeatedly shown they only respond to deadlines – a deadline to transfer authority, deadlines to hold two elections and a referendum, and a deadline to form a government.



Finally, the current military mission in Iraq goes far beyond what Congress approved in the original 2002 Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. This legislation establishes that the authorization for use of military force is now limited to implementing the strategy set forth this legislation.



The time has come for a Congress that shares some responsibility for getting America into war in Iraq to provide a realistic strategy for getting us out. I believe that the strategy set forth in this legislation provides the best way forward for America and for Iraq. I hope you will join me as a co-sponsor.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

John F. Kerry

Set A Deadline



The Democrats unofficial war council will add the legislation to a must-pass funding bill next week.

Good move!

More here: HUGE: Senate Dems move to REVOKE war authorization!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:51 PM
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1. Done...from one bookend to another.
:)
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:56 PM
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3. So does this mean that
if the GOP votes against it...they also vote against the war funding? If so this is delicious.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:02 PM
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6. The article states that this resolution
might be attached to the funding bill. This is an end-run around the funding debate. The funding bill is a 'must-pass' for Bush in order to get the cash he needs to continue operations in Iraq. If the bill also contains this language, what's Bush going to do, veto the funding for the war?

It is another step on the road to opposing the war. It is by no means the final step. But this would represent real progress.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:25 AM
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14. he'll get out the old signing statement tactic.
But I don't know if he has any political capital left. That might be the tipping point for a Repub Senators' revolt.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:06 PM
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7. That is cool - Bush's head might explode at the thought of either possibility
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:22 PM
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24. This should be televised:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:16 AM
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31. Reminder! n/t
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:56 PM
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2. Awesome.
Good to see the 'war council' working together to end this immoral war.

"I've had enough of 'nonbinding,' "
Me too, JK.

:patriot:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:58 PM
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4. Senate Democrats form a 'war council.' Damn, I love this.
And I would so love to be a 'fly on the wall' at that Dem Senate caucus next Tuesday when Sen. Lieberman walks in. LOL! That should be interesting.

This is a great idea! I am also tired of the non-binding resolutions so kudos to the whole group for moving the debate forward and proposing real measures to deal with a real war.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:14 PM
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8. Better yet, why always promoting war, why in the world not a PEACE COUNCIL?
n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:27 AM
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32. Possibly because we are fighting a war....against the GOP.....
and an insane administration; that's why.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:02 PM
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5. This is exactly what is needed
I'm with JK enough with "non-binding". I applaud all the Senators involved.

:applause: :applause:
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:30 PM
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9. Done! K&R!
John Kerry is gonna get us out of this Vietnam, too. Go JFK!
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:34 PM
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10. K&R
:kick:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:36 PM
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11. These actions make the warmongering GOP rubber stampers
of W look more foolish each day.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:00 AM
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12. Great post and hopefully, wonderful news. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:24 AM
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13. So this is the resolution over which Lieberman threatened to bolt to GOP
Well, then, I hope all the Democrats, and those Republicans to whom "Support the Troops" is not just a slogan, vote for this resolution. This is it!
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 02:19 AM
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15. "A Congress that shares some responsibility for getting America into war in Iraq"
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 02:26 AM by Clarkie1
Kerry is reedeming himself.

Good to see. K & R.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 02:43 AM
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16. I'm so grateful he's 'redeemed' himself to you! nt
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:58 AM
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17. If they can get it passed through congress it will still be too late, but a step
in the right direction. We'll see...:shrug:

:kick:
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:06 AM
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18. kick
this is great news.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:44 AM
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19. The debate on this should be really interesting
At least they will no longer be able to say that the dems are taking the wasy way out with a non-binding resolution.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:24 AM
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20. I agree. This makes it harder for Repubs to say Dems have no plan
and that is a very good thing. The Dems are the ones listening to the American people and not just to a failing Administration on Iraq.
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:47 AM
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21. It will never see the light of day due to the filibuster
Eventually we'll figure out that the only way to get anything done is to impeach him.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:49 AM
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22. Talk about things that will never see the light of day
If there is no will in the Congress to approve binding resolutions to implement the Baker-Hamilton plan, there certainly is no will whatsoever to begin impreachment nor would that ever make it out of the House. That simply is not going to happen in this Congress.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:43 AM
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23. TMP Muckraker: Today's Must Read
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 11:43 AM by ProSense

Today's Must Read

By Paul Kiel - February 23, 2007, 9:09 AM

"I've had enough of 'nonbinding,' " says Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA). OK, then. So what's next?

The new plan from Senate Democrats, revealed today in the major papers, is to supersede the 2002 Iraq War authorization resolution with one that would pull out combat troops starting in March, 2008. After that, only troops involved with counterterrorism operations (against Al Qaeda), training Iraqi troops, and securing Iraq's border would remain. The Politico has the best rundown of the resolution's nitty gritty details. Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Joe Biden (D-DE) are the main drivers behind it, but it has support across the spectrum of Senate Democrats. It's unclear when a vote would occur.

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Interesting to note that of all the Senators,other than Senator Kerry, involved in this, Senator Feingold is the only one who supported a timetable prior to this.

Big kudos to Kerry and Feingold for focusing the debate and staying on top of the issue.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:40 PM
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25. at the very least, this takes away the GOP talking point about nonbinding resolutions
The GOP has been trying to spin the previous vote as useless.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:46 PM
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26. More like a Warped Council
They're Still Shooting Blanks.

They can De-Authorize, Un-Authorize, or Dis-Authorize anything they like.

Or rather, they can't.

Because they can't get past the filibuster. And even if they do, they can't get past the veto. And even if they do, they can't get past the "rule by signing statement."

And even if they do all that, they get laughed at and told (again) "We don't need no stinking authorizations!"

And we get some Iran/contra Supersized, while they continue their public masturbation.

It's like rats in a maze.

Only Impeachment ... is THE CHEESE.

It's the only thing that makes any sense on any level - moral, logical, political, historical, electoral -- you name it. (That is, if one's not mired in the Beltway Bedlam Blather Bubble.)

It is our ONLY meaningful option.

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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:28 PM
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27. I disagree
Doing something is better than doing nothing - even if it won't work as advertised. Trying and failing to de-authorize the occupation of Iraq makes a huge difference. It sets in the public mind which side we are on and which side the GOPers are on. This is much wiser, IMHO, than what we've seen the last few years - going along with shit because we didn't have the power to successfully stop it. That is pathetic and we as a party deservedly got our ass kicked at the polls. Balls to the wall, I say. Stand up and be counted. If it doesn't work, try something else. But whatever happens, keep swinging that same hammer till ya break through.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 02:17 AM
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30. But alas, they are not "doing something"
They have put their hammer "off the table." They are just swinging like a rusty gate.

Impeachment is still (to them) a dirty word.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:26 PM
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28. Kick n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:18 PM
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29. Awesome video:
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