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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:28 PM
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Clinton supporters....how often do you characterize the other candidates campaigns or supporters...
as non-Democratic?

In other words, do you ever claim to be real Democrats, while their organizations, volunteers, advisors, etc...are not Democrats.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:38 PM
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1. I recently pointed out that Hillary hatred on DU was perhaps
so over the top that those haters should try a different website where they'd find like-thinking Internet posters. In the same thread, I also challenged those haters to post at least one time in a positive manner about the candidate they support for every ten negative postings they aimed at Hillary.
I don't think anyone took up that challenge.
I'm not a currently a supporter of Mrs Clinton, so I guess my opinion about how those who hate her express themselves doesn't count?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:43 PM
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2. I'm just amazed how many DUers are GOP kool aid drinkers re Hillary n/t
n/t
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:52 PM
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4. Some, I believe, are koolaid servers. nt
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:51 PM
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3. Not a Hillary supporter, more of a Democrat Defender, but...
there are two candidates, somewhat popular around here, who's Dem credentials I have challenged, and a third who I feel has changed his opinion too often for me to trust. I've in the past accused one of them of being a Republican, but I have sworn to stop that now.

That's not to say I won't question any candidate, including Clinton, on issues I think they are wrong on, and I might label some of those positions as unDemocratic. When I do so, though, I will back the claim with facts, not some vague impression I picked up from Drudge but think I picked up from a trustworthy source.

There is no candidate, not one, that I agree with more than, probably, around 80%. Some much less. So whomever I vote for will be a compromise, based on which issues I believe important, and on the candidate's ability and electability. My opinion will always be based on what I can prove about a candidate, not based on claims by supporters or opponents that I can't find evidence for.

Just my confessions and opinions. Make your own.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:05 AM
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6. Near 80% agreement is my goal rarely obtained - and issues - not Fox Cable News assertions
are what determine my opinions.

I really tire of hearing GOP crap being said on DU.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:58 PM
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5. "Not a Democrat": Anyone who refuses to vote for the Dem's nominee in 2008.
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 11:59 PM by oasis
:puke:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:22 AM
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7. I love Hillary for one reason, and now two.
The first reason, and I've been saying this for three-four years now, is that she will piss off the neocons to no end. They hate the Clintons, and they hate even more Hillary, a female who doesn't sit down and shut up and stay in the kitchen.

It makes them crazy!

Now, of course, posters here will create these unbelievable straw men posts about how, well, the neocons love Hillary because they're not attacking her. (Missing the fact that they've been attacking her and her family for well over two decades now and that any more will not do them any good.) In the end, she is truly their biggest threat. They would hate to see her in office more than Al Gore. More than even the most liberal of the liberal person in office. They hate her more than Ralph Nader! They really do!

So that's the main reason I love Hillary Clinton. She will make the neocon/evengelical heads roll. She will create more entertainment than any President ever had before her. They will suffer so badly that it will just be delicious.

Now my second reason for liking her stems from the fact that this will be, seemingly, the same effect that will happen to people here on DU. The more controversial, the more annoying, the more beautiful the reactions from people, the better!

I mean it. I'm disillusioned by politics. It's all more about who can entertain me the most at this point.

Unlesss Al Gore runs in which case I will, for the first time in my life, sign up and help get him in to office.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:27 AM
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9. I love Hillary for TWO reason, and now THREE.
Like you, I believe her election will piss off the neocons to no end.

Secondly, I believe her election would be a third term for the obviously overall successful policies of Bill Clinton. There is every indication she will surround herself with the same people - including the former President himself.

Third - it will piss off the far left to no end.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:22 AM
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8. DU's own Magistrate said it best
Another is the perennial brouha here about what constitutes a “real Democrat”, most of which is conducted along lines that bear very little relation with the actual states and history of the Democratic Party. The idea that figures like (insert any give Democrat's name here) are/were not “real Democrats” is nothing but the punch-line to a very poor joke, although it is certainly true that they embraced many policies and ideas that some of our radicals today detest. But that latter is hardly an indication they were not “real Democrats”; rather, it is an indication that such radicals are somewhat out of step with the Democratic Party as a real institution and political force, as opposed to an ideal item they imagine not only to be fact, but to be wholly agreeable to them. The fact is that the Cold War was fought by Democrats as well as Republicans, and was a solid item of Democratic Party identity and policy in those days. The faction of the Democratic Party that opposed the Cold War had its politiocal trial with the campaign for President of Sec. Wallace in 1948, and failed utterly, gaining the votes of only a handful of people. What is repudiated at the polls by the overwhelming preponderance of Democratic voters cannot be the real face of the Democratic Party. It really is that simple.
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