Does anyone else just find the Clinton/Obama rivalry funny?

[Guaranteed]

I can't bring myself to support either of those two, although I suppose I wouldn't complain about an Obama presidency. Seeing them go at each other without really liking either of them much seems...well, I don't know what the word is. But it's like watching two people you don't like that much fight. ;)

The party infighting is bad, yeah. But they both seem like the types that, if I *did* currently have a dog in the race, would do something nasty to him just to be a jerk- i.e., they would be starting infighting anyway.

[jody]

1. Not funny, pathetic is more descriptive. n/t

[Guaranteed]

2. It is pathetic, but I still laugh for some reason.

I'm trying to figure out what it is.

[waiting for hope]

3. It's the side show...

to the Anna Nicole, Brittany parade. Personally, I think they are both harming themselves but, with that said, being so much in the lime light, it's kind of hard to escape what's going on. I think the MSM is setting them up, especially Hillary.

[Lerkfish]

7. actually, I get the impression they're setting up Obama more than Hillary

meh, but neither are looking good at this point.

[mnhtnbb]

4. I think it's sad more than funny. Their egos are larger than their love of the Dem party.

[Guaranteed]

5. I think it really does come down to the egos.

"Egos in action."

[Bucky]

23. I'm not supporting either, but I think that judgment is wrong.

They're ambitious and hungry. You want an ambitious person and a hungry candidate going all out, going 100% to win. I trust the Democrats to pull it all together and stand as one after the convention. Until then, let the gladiators knock each other about as much as they can. That's exactly how you get a more involved electorate.

[mnhtnbb]

6. I'm just so fed up with arguing over BS that distracts from all the problems facing this country

after 6 years of Bushies.

[politicasista]

22. You are not alone n/t

[NovaNardis]

8. Funny in that

I see Obama/Clinton come general election time. :)

Not that I like that selection, but still.

[mnhtnbb]

9. And I see Edwards/Obama with Hillary slinking back to the Senate

[Lerkfish]

10. I see Gore/Conyers...but I know I am dreaming when I see it.

or Clark/Feingold

or Boxer/Clark

I'd be happy with any of those, at this point, I think.

[calimary]

37. Hey! NOTHING wrong with dreaming.

Not a thing wrong with it. Especially if the name "Gore" is somehow attached...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3137910&mesg_id=3137910

humbly submitted...

[fuzzyball]

11. On the contrary HRC exposed Obama's hypocracy of promising

a clean & positive campaign. The HRC camp asked Obama to
dis-avow the negative Geffen comment and Obama refused.

Incidentally I did not know Geffen was gay. I just heard that
recently.

[Windy]

16. Oh please. Who made the comment about someone who is NOT

on Obama's campaign team?

What's Obama supposed to do? Shut up and take crap from Clinton? Is this the Bush campaign?

I would expect that ANY candidate who gets attacked by the Clinton team will fight back.

Funny, Geffen has a right to his opinion.

And what is the point of the "gay bashing"? So what if he's gay?

[fuzzyball]

26. No gay bashing whatsoever.........

I did not utter a single word bashing gays!
All I said was I did not know Geffen was gay. And his
sexual preference does not bother me one bit. It was
just a big surprise to me that's all.

[PresidentObama]

24. Who cares he's gay?

Why bring that up?

Geffen isn't part of the Obama campaign, he's free to say what he wants.

[fuzzyball]

27. Personally I have zero problem with gays...but the connection between

Geffen and Obama may and may not have some political fallout.
We just don't know how this will play out.

[PresidentObama]

30. Well, I hope it ends honestly.

I don't think Obama did anything wrong, and Geffen isn't officially part of his staff. But on the bright side, it gave both campaigns a test run of their rapid response system.

Both did well responding quickly and being ready :thumbsup:

And no problem about the gay thing. Sometimes I get shocked when I find out people are gay too, especially the cute ones. LOL.

No harm done :hi:

[LoZoccolo]

25. That's not a fair thing for her to ask.

Everyone has their own opinion.

[Cha]

29. Like hillary would "disavow"

ANYTHING. And who the hell do they think they are..telling Obama how to act? It's just her idea of "gotcha" politics and someday it's gonna blow up in that fucking face of hers.

[Ethelk2044]

31. No They did not

Obama did not say those things. Someone on his campaign did. However, it does prove how worried the Clinton campaign is about him running. They jumped the gun. He is pulling larger crowds than her so far. Even the News media (MSNBC, CNN) has stated she made a mistake. It shows how worried they are over Obama. They underestimated him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/23/us/politics/23feud.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin

He was actually taking his girls to school and was unaware that it was going on.In a telephone interview Thursday, Mr. Obama said he had not been aware beforehand of the statement his campaign had put out Wednesday morning responding to the public demand by Howard Wolfson, Mrs. Clinton’s hard-driving senior communications adviser, that Mr. Obama denounce Mr. Geffen and return the money he had raised.

Mr. Obama said he had been on a red-eye flight, getting a haircut and taking his daughters to school as the fight broke out, and strongly suggested he had told his aides he wanted to stay above the fray.

“I told my staff that I don’t want us to be a party to these kinds of distractions because I want to make sure that we’re spending time talking about issues,” Mr. Obama said. “My preference going forward is that we have to be careful not to slip into playing the game as it customarily is played.”





:rofl:

[Stinky The Clown]

12. Heh ..... I think its funny because they're gunna pummel each other so badly that ......

...... someone else is going to run right up the middle between the two of them. With this silly high school kool kids crap they're *both* doing, the general populace will be over both of them before a normal primary season would have even started.

I'm personally not particularly 'anti' either one of them, but if this shit continues, a pox on both their heads.

My *bigger* concern is that they're going to cost the DEMOCRATIC PARTY some votes and some support - and that just ain't funny. At all.

[Guaranteed]

13. No, that would not be cool, if they hurt our name. nt

[wtmusic]

14. All the posturing at this stage reeks of self-importance

and I have a strong feeling neither will be there in the final round.

Yes, it's funny.

[shawmut]

15. I enjoy a good dust-up

unless my candidate is involved. :)

[Adelante]

17. It's a freak show

Which can be entertaining at moments.

[sandnsea]

18. God the media is good and DUers once again are dupes

Obama didn't go after anybody. That was Hillary attack machine all the way.

[Bucky]

21. One of his people did throw in that comment about the Lincoln Bedroom

Obama is accountable for what his campaign staff does and says. That was a shot and probably fair play, but he can't play that way and then claim he wasn't attacking. That's an attack, or at least a counter attack. It's funny, it's true, and it's well played. But it's an attack. I was glad to see him hit back that hard--it made me far more sympathetic to his candidacy (tho I'm still holding my breath for Wes).

Obama won that dust up with Clinton by a mile, by the way. I like seeing that in a candidate. I think it validates what I said early this week. We have a Darwinian duty to our party to fight a little dirty against each other. If any candidate has a glass jaw, we need to see them knocked out before they get the nomination.

[ripple]

19. It was an amusing repartee

but it wasn't the big, bad-ass fight the media is making it out to be. What happened this week was nothing more that a polite disagreement compared to what's to come.

I was just pleased to see my candidate's campaign hit back and hit back hard. The unfortunate reality is that's what it takes to make it to the finish line in today's political arena.

[Bucky]

20. I think the word is "Schadefreude"

Germans are great. Bickering pols are funny. I get a bigger kick out of the Republicans bickering, but yes it's funny.

[Cha]

28. This is what truthdig had to say

about it..

http://www.truthdig.com/

But, from what I've heard Obama really wasn't in on it. So why is he being dragged in?

[rocktivity]

32. GEFFEN is the one who badmouthed Hillary's husband;

Geffen is the one who she should have gone after. Allowing his remarks to be parlayed into an opportunity to attack Obama does not generate confidence in her judgment, courageousness and personal character.

:headbang:
rocknation

[election_2004]

33. Yep

And even if Senator Clinton does become president, ultimately history will not look kindly on her.

[sandrakae]

34. Yea, it is almost like it is scripted.

[NDP]

35. No, I find it media generated to keep both of their names in the news. Tell me anything noteworthy

that either of those two has said since they announced that warrants them being covered by cable news every single day.

The answer is nothing. The media want to cover them, because the GOP wants them nominated.

[fujiyama]

36. The whole thing is stupid

Let's all face it. Hardly anyone is even paying attention to an election over a year and a half away. The media needs a story. Hillary is big name anyways and Obama is the new guy in town, so why not go with that?

Either way, I didn't have a good impression of Hillary and it's only getting worse. I'll still vote for her in '08 if she gets the nomination...But sometimes I almost want to see her nominated, have her inevitably lose, and then watch some of her supporters forced to admit she's a disaster...

As for Geffen, how the hell does it matter what he says? He's just some supporter of Obama...I thought Hillary is a tougher pol than that....

But for Obama this has been a quick and rude awakening, but this is absolutely nothing compared to what pukes would throw at him if he's nominated.

[HuffleClaw]

38. its a media-created tempest in a teapot

and hilarious

[Vinca]

39. I'm puzzled why Hillary went after Obama for something a

citizen with every right to speak said. It seems desperate and overcompensating. I'm also sorry Obama felt the need to respond to her attack at all. It wasn't worthy of response.