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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 08:05 AM
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The "curious" team of former US presidents George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton in Orlando yesterday
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The curious team of former U.S. presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton brought their unique combination of personal anecdotes and political observations, appearing together for a thrilled crowd of several thousand delegates at the CTIA Wireless 2007 convention –a meeting of cellular and high-tech wireless industry types– at the Orange County Convention Center, Thursday.

Link for more photos of the two: http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2007/03/the_ex_presiden.html

Well compensated for their appearances, I would imagine. This photo, by the way, was on the front page of the Orlando Sentinel today.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:38 AM
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1. I love the Big Dawg
But how can he sit there with a person who would put a knife in his back? The Bushies are evil incarnate, and will destroy anyone who gets in their way. Just don't get it...
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:42 AM
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2. Yeah, and Papa Bush recently said
(before Hillary had officially entered the race for president) that if she were to run the president, he promised that he and the Republicans would "beat the hell out of her." So I think the Big Dawg-Papa Bush friendship only goes so far.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:45 AM
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3. Poppy Bush and his cronies live and thrive BECAUSE of Bill Clinton stabbing US
in the back instead of exposing BushInc. when he had the greatest opportunity to do so. Who do you think covered up for Poppy Bush's crimes of office that a few persistent Democrats in congress spent YEARS uncovering?

And it wasn't just IranContra - it was BCCI, Iraqgate, and CIA drugrunning - all matters that led directly to 9-11 and this Iraq war.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Democrats, the Truth Still Matters!

By Robert Parry
(First Posted May 11, 2006)

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Democrats, being Democrats, always want to put governance, such as enacting legislation and building coalitions, ahead of oversight, which often involves confrontation and hard feelings. Democrats have a difficult time understanding why facts about past events matter when there are problems in the present and challenges in the future.

Given that proclivity, we are re-posting a story from last May that examined why President Bill Clinton and the last Democratic congressional majority (in 1993-94) shied away from a fight over key historical scandals from the Reagan-Bush-I years -- and the high price the Democrats paid for that decision:

My book, Secrecy & Privilege, opens with a scene in spring 1994 when a guest at a White House social event asks Bill Clinton why his administration didn’t pursue unresolved scandals from the Reagan-Bush era, such as the Iraqgate secret support for Saddam Hussein’s government and clandestine arms shipments to Iran.

Clinton responds to the questions from the guest, documentary filmmaker Stuart Sender, by saying, in effect, that those historical questions had to take a back seat to Clinton’s domestic agenda and his desire for greater bipartisanship with the Republicans.

Clinton “didn’t feel that it was a good idea to pursue these investigations because he was going to have to work with these people,” Sender told me in an interview. “He was going to try to work with these guys, compromise, build working relationships.”

Clinton’s relatively low regard for the value of truth and accountability is relevant again today because other centrist Democrats are urging their party to give George W. Bush’s administration a similar pass if the Democrats win one or both houses of Congress.

Reporting about a booklet issued by the Progressive Policy Institute, a think tank of the Democratic Leadership Council, the Washington Post wrote, “these centrist Democrats … warned against calls to launch investigations into past administration decisions if Democrats gain control of the House or Senate in the November elections.”

These Democrats also called on the party to reject its “non-interventionist left” wing, which opposed the Iraq War and which wants Bush held accountable for the deceptions that surrounded it.

“Many of us are disturbed by the calls for investigations or even impeachment as the defining vision for our party for what we would do if we get back into office,” said pollster Jeremy Rosner, calling such an approach backward-looking.

Yet, before Democrats endorse the DLC’s don’t-look-back advice, they might want to examine the consequences of Clinton’s decision in 1993-94 to help the Republicans sweep the Reagan-Bush scandals under the rug. Most of what Clinton hoped for – bipartisanship and support for his domestic policies – never materialized.

‘Politicized’ CIA

After winning Election 1992, Clinton also rebuffed appeals from members of the U.S. intelligence community to reverse the Reagan-Bush “politicization” of the CIA’s analytical division by rebuilding the ethos of objective analysis even when it goes against a President’s desires.

Instead, in another accommodating gesture, Clinton gave the CIA director’s job to right-wing Democrat, James Woolsey, who had close ties to the Reagan-Bush administration and especially to its neoconservatives.

One senior Democrat told me Clinton picked Woolsey as a reward to the neocon-leaning editors of the New Republic for backing Clinton in Election 1992.

“I told that the New Republic hadn’t brought them enough votes to win a single precinct,” the senior Democrat said. “But they kept saying that they owed this to the editors of the New Republic.”

During his tenure at the CIA, Woolsey did next to nothing to address the CIA’s “politicization” issue, intelligence analysts said. Woolsey also never gained Clinton’s confidence and – after several CIA scandals – was out of the job by January 1995.

At the time of that White House chat with Stuart Sender, Clinton thought that his see-no-evil approach toward the Reagan-Bush era would give him an edge in fulfilling his campaign promise to “focus like a laser beam” on the economy.

He was taking on other major domestic challenges, too, like cutting the federal deficit and pushing a national health insurance plan developed by First Lady Hillary Clinton.

So for Clinton, learning the truth about controversial deals between the Reagan-Bush crowd and the autocratic governments of Iraq and Iran just wasn’t on the White House radar screen. Clinton also wanted to grant President George H.W. Bush a gracious exit.

“I wanted the country to be more united, not more divided,” Clinton explained in his 2004 memoir, My Life. “President Bush had given decades of service to our country, and I thought we should allow him to retire in peace, leaving the (Iran-Contra) matter between him and his conscience.”

Unexpected Results

Clinton’s generosity to George H.W. Bush and the Republicans, of course, didn’t turn out as he had hoped. Instead of bipartisanship and reciprocity, he was confronted with eight years of unrelenting GOP hostility, attacks on both his programs and his personal reputation.

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 04:42 PM
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6. Thank you for the truth...
despite all of the "Big Dawg" fetishists who refuse to believe anything about his evident craven opportunism
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 11:11 AM
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4. Being bigger than their differences does Clinton a LOT of good.
Palling around with Poppy makes it possible for Clinton to raise jillions of dollars for his pet causes, including the Clinton Foundation, fighting the global AIDS epidemic, the urban enterprise initiative, and running his wife for president.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 02:53 PM
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5. Why doesn't Bush have any grey hair?
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