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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:43 AM
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Hos, Imus, and Hillary
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/hos-imus-and-hillary_b_45476.html

Hos, Imus, and Hillary
Taylor March


Imus' radio show has hit the fan. So has the subject of racism and misogyny, but let's not forget hypocrisy. Oh, and did I mention Hillary? There's no doubt that Imus' remarks were racist, but considering he's a shock jock who's been left to spew venom for years is anyone surprised? The real problem will be if Dan Abrams of MSNBC has to replace the three plus hours of easy programming. Infomercials here they come? We shall see. But seriously, when we're talking about "hos," you really can't talk about this slander used against the Rutgers team without also mentioning the Democratic "front-runner," at least when it comes to most polls, Hillary Clinton. Because without a calculator you cannot count the number of times Clinton has been called a "money whore" and worse in comment sections across the blogosphere, including my own site. The hard part to take about this is that it's coming from Democrats and so-called progressives in our own party. What does that say about us? If the Democratic front-runner remains Hillary and Democratic progressives refer to her as a "money whore" and more, what will happen if she's our nominee? The language against this powerful, competent and electrically charged female is sure to get worse as things get amped up. Remember what the wingnuts did to Hillary in the 1990's? It's almost a right of passage to power to slander Hillary Clinton if you're a Republican, especially on radio.

Headlines like the one below never please anyone, especially Barack Obama's people. I've been called every name in the book in emails, with my honesty challenged in comment sections because I dare to challenge Obama, though no one should attach these attacks to Mr. Obama, who would have none of it I am sure. When I trumpeted Hillary's competence and star power, that's when the vitriol spiked. I was even called a racist. When rightly reporting on a positive performance from Hillary, that's when commenters and others really went after Clinton. When I wrote about her amazing performance at the Nevada health care forum all hell broke loose. Saying Hillary shined was just too much for some to take. I got "money whore" comments on my blog. I can't say that I was shocked but I was disappointed. Hillary deserves better. Women deserve better. The Democratic progressive cause that has trumpeted women's rights deserves a lot better, too. But the dominance of this smart, powerful and competent female is impossible to ignore so it's likely the attacks will only get worse instead of better. She's again besting everyone in the field in the latest poll just released.

Sen. Hillary Clinton remains the dominant presidential front-runner among Democrats nationally, with twice the support as her nearest challenger. Sen. Barack Obama, former Sen. John Edwards, and former Vice President Al Gore are tightly bunched in second place, with all other candidates in low single digits. If Gore is removed from the ballot and his supporters' second-place choices substituted, Clinton's lead becomes even more dominant, with Obama and Edwards tied far behind.


Hillary Clinton Remains Dominant Front-Runner Among Democrats
Obama and Edwards close in second place


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The hypocrisy is knee deep right now, which extends to what even Democrats are calling Hillary Clinton. I don't care if you want her as the nominee or if you're working for Edwards or Obama. If you think Imus was wrong and racist then it's time you check your own language if you're one of the people whose disrespect for the first viable female candidate for president turns towards shock jock territory in a slanderous attack that has you calling Hillary a "money whore" or something equally derogatory; some talking about how she is a lesbian, or how Bill was bad because of Hillary, which is a staple on wingnut radio. It's the same insult against women, one of color and one of power. Race, misogyny and power are often entwined.

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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:28 AM
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1. If you want to go swimming in hypocrisy, you have come to the right place.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:30 AM
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2. You are exactly right Alamom
Well said.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:26 PM
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28. Yes, thanks for posting the article..
maybe some good will come out of all this consternation.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:33 AM
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3. The angry left and the self righteous right - two sides of the same coin
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:38 AM
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4. PS - Arianna is gonna be pissed when she reads that column!
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:56 AM
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6. I'm actually looking forward to that...nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:48 AM
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5. they do often exhibit the same behavior
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 08:53 AM by AtomicKitten
with absolutely no insight which can be just a teensy bit hypocritical,
unpleasant at times, but kinda fun to watch
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:00 AM
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7. Awesome! It's pathetic how Hillary is often called a whore by so-called "progressives" here
How many times have we heard someone here call her a "corporate whore" or other choice versions using the word "whore" by these self-proclaimed progressives? Real progressives would never stoop that low.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:03 AM
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8. And how often people defend using that word...
When some adjective is used in front of it!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:11 AM
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9. Like right here:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:18 AM
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11. Maybe there will be some outrage when they start calling
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 09:18 AM by durrrty libby
her a Ho.

Ha, no way!



The hypocrites here love wallowing in their group sewer

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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:08 PM
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26. It's pathetic how often ANY woman is called that at DU
Just pathetic. NO PROGRESSIVE should ever use that term -- or its cousins -- and I don't give a damn about the "media whores" term or website or anything else. It is UNFAILINGLY DAMAGING to all women. And no matter what any horrible woman has done, this and other gender slurs harm ALL WOMEN not just the woman in question.

I am unceasingly shocked and appalled that language like that is allowed at DU which PURPORTS to be a place where bigotry isn't allowed.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:16 AM
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10. How about you start first by calling her CLINTON?
Journalists don't call the other candidates John or Barack or Bill or Dennis. While she may choose to drop her surname and go by "Hillary," when journalists drop the rules of style to go along with it, it equates to an unfair advantage for her. She's an adult woman in an adult field of candidates. Her name is Clinton, or perhaps Rodham, but it's improper to cite her in headlines as Hillary. Journalists should be called on this.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:19 AM
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12. Nice try. nt
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:23 AM
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14. Stephanie, her campaign uses "Hillary"


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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:24 AM
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15. I dislike it when some so-called journalists call her Mrs Clinton rather than
Senator Clinton. They do that on purpose

However on the Hillary thing, she does send out e-mails and notices

signed, Hillary. It does seem that she wants to distinguish herself away

from the Clinton name
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:34 AM
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19. I agree
I think she should be called either Senator Clinton or Hillary. People don't call Barack Obama "Mr. Obama" or John Edwards "Mr. Edwards."
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:05 AM
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22. I go with Senator Clinton or Hillary
Simply "Clinton" confuses her with her fairly well-known husband.

I'm more comfortable with Senator Clinton, but if her campaign is okay with "Hillary", then that's important.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:25 AM
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16. Read post #15. nt
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:28 AM
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18. But I call Jeb Bush "Jeb" to avoid confusion and I call Fred Thompson and Tommy Thompson "Fred" and
"Tommy" for the same reason. In that context, what's wrong with calling Hillary Clinton "Hillary"?

If you really find it offensive, you probably will want to contact Hillary at her official campaign website to register your complaint:



Link: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:22 AM
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13. Nice post, inciteful
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:27 AM
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17. was that a freudian slip? "inciteful" instead of "insightful"?
:rofl:
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 10:58 AM
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21. Oh my yep...
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 10:57 AM
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20. I have issues with both Senator Clinton and Obama, but these issues
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 10:58 AM by wisteria
have nothing to do with race or the fact that Senator Clinton is a woman. I deplore any derogatory comments directed at any candidate based on race, gender or even sexual preferences.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:11 PM
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27. Good, but why limit it? I deplore any derogatory comments
directed at any HUMAN based on race, gender or even sexual preference. There's no justification for it ANYWHERE (as IMUS is finding out), but especially not on a PROGRESSIVE discussion board. None. It's inexcusable.
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:08 PM
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23. BIG difference- The Rutgers womens team has integrity - Hillary doesn't
There seems to be little Hillary would not do in order to become president. Sell Chelsea into slavery? Sure. Promote the AIPAC agenda and the prospect of war without end? If that's what it takes.

When someone forsakes their principles in pursuit of money and power, they are a whore. The Rutgers womens team are not whores. But Hillary is.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:11 PM
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24. I'd like to nominate your post, CTD, to the DP
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:13 PM
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25. another post that isn't quite grounded in reality.
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