Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Edwards Gaining Momentum In Polls...So Why Doesn't He Get

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:27 PM
Original message
Edwards Gaining Momentum In Polls...So Why Doesn't He Get
any press? What does the man have to do? Be Dannielynn's biological father? I read that he was gaining strong on Hillary and was ahead of Obama in some polls and even in the ones he was behind, it wasn't by much. So why does he get ignored by the media? All I ever hear when Dem candidates are mentioned are 'Hillary and Obama'...'Hillary and Obama'...'Hillary and Obama'...

Whassup?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:29 PM
Response to Original message
1. Perhaps the fact that he isn't in the Senate any more dilutes his visibility, ...
or something like that. Not that it has helped Dodd or Biden. Perhaps voters just don't see him as relevant anymore. I happen to like him, BTW.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. No, the VOTERS are voting for him in polls. It's the PRESS that is ignoring him. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NormanYorkstein Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. Edwards gets lots of press!
When his wife is sick he gets lots of press telling us how he should quit, and he gets lots of press about his new house and why he should quit.

As for his well thought out policies and all their specifics, BORING!

:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. Exactly. If I hadn't started checking in here again
All I would hear about Edwards are the things you mentioned. I could watch CNN all day and the only names I would hear are 'Hillary and Obama".

And I don't think it is because he isn't a Senator any more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. I think your second sentence is the likely culprit.
A lot of voters think of him as "that guy who ran as VP in 2004" and nothing else. Hillarry, meanwhile is a much more well-known commodity, and Obama has the advantage of novelty.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
11. I agree--it's the Senate thing. Nobody can look to see how he votes
on everything that comes thru, the way we watch the others. It's an instant forum for them. Richardson, though busy as gov, has the same problem. Congress is very high-visibility right now. If there was ever a chance for a Senator to win, this is it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #11
32. How Obama and Clinton vote is hardly a part of the discussion re their candidacy
The media coverage they get has nothign to do with how they vote.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. Maybe not, but they are a part of Congress, movin' and shakin'--
not to sound mean, but they have a "day job" that garners them some extra attention. It's tougher to be on the outside of that, even though Edwards has more time to campaign.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. Well, that not exactly the argument above. And, btw, I think HRC would be
famous whether she were in the senate or not right now. I think she gets 90% of the attention she gets simply because of who her husband is.

Obama is certainly well known because of the way he won the senate race.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:29 PM
Response to Original message
2. I don't know.
But populists like Edwards and Dean seem to be public enemy #1 to corporatists (msm). JMO, not a statement of fact.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. That's all I can think, too. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:31 PM
Response to Original message
4. His positions are a lot like Deans'.
But he has an eloquent speaking voice. The media is some what afraid.:scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Posts #2 and #4 sum it up
They don't want someone getting the villagers all riled up and looking for pitchforks and torches
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. LOL. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. Can't have us getting all uppity now, can we?
ROFL!

:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #8
29. "Give me some men who are stout hearted men and will fight for the right to be free...."
Very old movie with Jimmy Cagney I believe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #4
18. So, is Edwards or Obama (or someone else) the "Dean" of this election? Which candidate will best
stand up against corporate greed run amok like the Adelphia, Enron, Halliburton, Phar-Mor, Tyco, Worldcom, etc. scandal?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. Edwards, without any doubt. Edwards has detailed his positions.
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 06:05 PM by w4rma
Obama has, in general, avoided details.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. Thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:32 PM
Response to Original message
7. I think
the people behind the curtain (corporate America) are scared to death of Edwards. I like that he's not letting the lack of press stop him. he's out there meeting individuals and people are obviously liking what they're seeing.

I support him but I'd chose him as VP to Gore if I made the decisions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
plgoldsmith Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. You're right, it's the corporations
Edwards is the only economic populist in the bunch. He's running on policies, not personality. They'll ice him out as long as they possibly can. The press isn't good at the job WE think they should be doing, but they're downright ingenious when it comes to serving their true masters.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #7
33. He's Corporate America's worst nightmare, I expect the shills in the Media...
to do everything they can to keep him out of the spotlight and off the radar. I know where my support is going.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:40 PM
Response to Original message
12. Because HE is a Democratic candidate that can actually win
That is why they don't cover him.
But to be fair, they really aren't covering the Republican candidates either...because they can't win.
When there is a Republican candidate that has a snowball's chance in hell of winning...it will be non-stop coverage of that candidate and THEN Edwards will start getting more press...only not the good kind.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Exactly. They are scared SPITLESS!
They know that if Edwards wins they are in deep shit. I believe that he won't cover for ANYONE!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:51 PM
Response to Original message
17. It's WAY too early.
Once the primaries actually start and Edwards starts racking up wins (which I believe he will), you'll see more press for him.

Right now all the attention is on Clinton and Obama. Which might be a good thing for Edwards.

I'm for Hillary, but I don't count out Edwards for a second. I think we've got a three candidate race right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:55 PM
Response to Original message
19. Anyone care to match the $25.00 donation I made to him today?
Call his N.C. home base number and tell them that boy who grew up in Vance County who called this morning and gave $25.00 sent you:

919-636-3131
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. LOL...Been there, done that!! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. Great!!! Then I invite someone else on this thread to match your gift or mine. n/t
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #19
25. No takers ???? n/t
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:13 PM
Response to Original message
22. Face it, corporate press will be hostile to Democrats
as long as they are allowed to be monopolies. Until and unless we get a leadership with the stones to break up the huge monopolies we have in this country in energy, banking, the press, and several other key industries, this is all we can expect: a press that will studiously ignore a Democratic candidate until he makes a minor mistake that can be blown all out of proportion.

See: "Dean Scream"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:27 PM
Response to Original message
23. White woman vs. Black man
Two minorities in the realm of politics.

This is nothing more than a dream come true for the media. They couldn't care less about the fact that John Edwards would be the best President.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:38 PM
Response to Original message
26. Wolf, Tucker and Tweety are obsessed with Obama.
If I had a dollar for every time they say his name I could pay my bills for the rest of the year! Now as to who or what is teling them to do this, gee, I can't imagine... :eyes:

They do it for Hillary too, but to a far lesser extent.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #26
30. And so are hundreds of thousands of Americans, me included.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:55 PM
Response to Original message
27. Edwards gets plenty press....enough for his purpose at this time......
He doesn't want to be the "frontrunner" yet. The press is actually and has always covered Edwards just fine!


OTHER MAJOR FINDINGS:
Golden Boys Get Midas Touch-Not one person quoted by the networks had anything critical to say about North Carolina Senator John Edwards (100 percent favorable coverage) in the two and half weeks leading up to the Iowa caucus, while 96 percent of the evaluations of Massachusetts Senator John Kerry were positive.
http://www.cmpa.com/pressReleases/NetworksAnointedKerryEdwards.htm

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #27
35. Two of the quotes in that article are of voters and none are reporters.
Since those candidates did well, does it not make sense that voters were saying good things about them before the election?

And what was that 100% and 96% of? If four out of 91 stories mention Edwards and they're all positive, what does that mean? And compare that to the kind of media Obama and Clinton are getting this year.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:17 PM
Response to Original message
31. I'd go for him.
My first choice is Gore or Clark, as I believe they are the only two people in the country truly qualified to run it, but since John Edwards grew up poor and is talking about New Deal principles applied to the now-dead middle class, I would go for it. Besides, he's a plaintiff's lawyer, and a damn good one. Someone has to hold a company's feet to the fire when they commit a serious tort.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 09:30 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC