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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:34 PM
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Would Bloomberg Have a Chance?
TIME: Would Bloomberg Have a Chance?
Wednesday, Jun. 20, 2007
By MARK HALPERIN

....even Bloomberg's most ardent boosters recognize the daunting realities of the past (independents don't win the Presidency) and the future (if Bloomberg enters the race and looks like he might win, Republicans and Democrats would team up to try to destroy him).

Most of the obvious attacks on a Presidential candidate Bloomberg would come from the right. Conservative activists would assail his views on gay marriage, the death penalty, gun control and taxes as typical New York City liberalism. Both sides would say he lacked national security experience and explore his background, looking for business and personal vulnerabilities. Bloomberg would try to fight off the efforts to define him with hundreds of millions of dollars of television commercials, and would likely spend a similar amount trying to define the other candidates as out of touch and extreme.

Clearly Bloomberg does not plan to enter the race until he sees whom the major parties settle on as nominees, likely early next year. At that point, he would look to see how unfavorably those two candidates are seen, how sour the mood of the country is on politics-as-usual, and how open the electorate seems to a candidate Bloomberg himself describes as "a short, Jewish, divorced billionaire," one who has now turned his back on both the Democrats and the Republicans.

And here's the thing: Bloomberg will only enter the race if he believes he has a reasonable chance to win, but he almost certainly never will be the favorite to win, simply because as an independent he could not be expected to get more than, say, 35% of the vote at best, requiring the political equivalent of drawing an inside straight to win the necessary 270 electoral votes to take the White House....So the more urgent question is, which party would be more hurt by his entry into the race?...Despite Bloomberg's reformist views on welfare and education that put him more in line with conservatives, on a national level, he would almost certainly hurt the Democratic nominee more than the Republican....

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It appears that a massively funded Bloomberg candidacy would endanger more states won by Gore and Kerry than those won by Bush. On the other hand, if Bloomberg was able to pick off some electoral votes, he could theoretically throw the outcome into the House of Representatives, producing another set of complex what-ifs....

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1635241,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:36 PM
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1. No
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:37 PM
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2. He would have a 100% chance of helping the Republican nominee.
The GOP base Hates him. Fickle Dems would lean to him extending GOP rule for EIGHT MORE YEARS.

Believe it.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:40 PM
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3. bloomberg will win if the dems pick Hillary. so many dislike her that the disaffected
and indies will go for him. this could be a huge problem
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:49 PM
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4. If the "creature" Thompson is the GOP candidate, and I truely believe he will be, Thompson wins.
Better start working on the House and Senate campaigns to retain DNC control with a Thompson nomination.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:57 PM
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5. No he will just cause us the election...
repukes will NOT vote for him.:banghead:
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 12:34 AM
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6. Yes, if he runs he will have decided that he can win. A great advantage
and will totally rewrite the political playbook for the next hundred years. He will tap into the 45% of non voters and make politics interesting again. IMO, a shakeup that is long overdue. He may not win but the current nonsense we call a campaign by sound bite will be passe. Parties will be force to run on a clear platforms and present a plan for the future and not bitch about could have, should have bs.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:43 AM
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7. Absolutely.
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 01:45 AM by calteacherguy
He has as good a chance as the party nominees of winning if he runs.

Bloomberg is no Ross Perot...he's not an oddball, and he has proven polical leadership abilities. And Americans are disgusted with both political parties. A third of the country at least is independent, and Bloomberg can likely pull votes from elements of both the Republican and Democratic Party.
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