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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:00 AM
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Dems who condemned Move On took its cash
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 09:06 AM by EV_Ares
This is what happens to the weak-knee dems that do this kind of stuff. Now they are coming out and showing what hypocrites these same people are that were critical of Move-On bowing to the republican demands. The dems are unbelievable or a lot of them anyway.
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More than 40 members who voted to condemn "General Betray Us" ad have accepted contributions from group.

Forty-four congressional Democrats who voted to condemn MMove OMove Onfor its ad branding Army Gen. David Petraeus "General Betray Us" have accepted more than $3.9 million in contributions from the influential anti-war group and its members.Among those who opposed resolutions specifically repudiating the full-page ad in The New York Times, only 17 Democrats and one independent took cash from the group and its members — contributions totaling almost $1.4 million.

The resolutions approved by the House, calling the ad an “unwarranted personal attack,” were only symbolic. But the split of Move On beneficiaries on the votes highlights something of a rift between Democrats and the anti-war activists who largely fuel Move On.A Politico analysis of MoveOn’s campaign finance records, upon which this story is based, goes back to 2002 and includes only contributions given directly by the group and those it funnels from its members to candidates, not the millions it spends on television ads and other so-called independent expenditures to help favored candidates. These tools, along with aggressive on line organizing, have made Move On an undeniable political force. It has helped boost many Democratic candidates to victory, including 20 or so freshmen who were essential to swinging the House and Senate to Democrats last year. Yet all but three of those freshmen voted for the resolutions blasting the ad.

Take Sen. Robert P. Casey Jr. (D-Pa.). Move On boasted it helped him knock off incumbent Republican Rick Santorum in 2006 by steering more than $200,000 in earmarked contributions from its members and independent expenditures to Casey, not to mention more than 800,000 phone calls urging support for him. Yet Casey voted to condemn the group’s ad, a move his spokesman Larry Smar said “is not remotely hypocritical.” He explained Casey “doesn’t agree 100 percent of the time with anyone who has supported him,” calling the ad “a distraction from the debate on the Bush policy in Iraq.”

Republicans in Congress and on the presidential trail have fanned the flames of the controversy, which has distracted attention from the war debate — a less advantageous issue for them.


Continue reading the story » Page: 1 & 2 @ http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0907/6086.html

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NOTE first comment; the dems that voted against MoveOn deserve the comment:

Hahahaha.What a bunch of hypocrites and political cowards....Who are we talking about?? The dems who else...bawhahaha....be

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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:05 AM
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1. No surprise
Casey of Pa. is a two-bit poser and an intellectual lightweight.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:33 AM
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2. Politico is Repug Op Rag...and it's urging Dems not to take money from Move On...
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 09:33 AM by KoKo01
Look at who they quote in the article:

Ken Spain, a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee, called it “the height of hypocrisy” for Democrats who benefited from MoveOn’s cash and independent expenditures to repudiate its ad.

“Now that they have been forced to go on the record condemning this despicable ad,” Spain said, “it is incumbent upon them to do the right thing and pledge not to take another dime from MoveOn.org.”

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:46 AM
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3. "Politico is Repug Op Rag" Yes, when Dear Leader promotes Politco.com during a press conference ...
this site's journalistic integrity is immediately shot to hell - right out of the gate. ;)
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:11 AM
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6. So does that mean these guys did not take their money and then
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 10:11 AM by EV_Ares
vote to condem them?

Also, now they are the laughing stock of everyone.

Doesn't matter if you think they are a republican rag or not. What matters is the truth.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:29 PM
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11. Their aim is to get Dems to not accept money from MoveOn ....
It's cleverly done in that if you don't read the whole article to the end...it sounds like the reporter is pointing out a hypocracy that so many who accept MoveOn's money voted to censure them. But when you get to the end you see that the goal of the article is to point out Dems shouldn't accept money from MoveOn if it censured them....and that MoveOn is so weak it can't hold those who voted to censure them accountable....unlike the MIGHTY REPUGS who would NEVER CENSURE their OWN...

Article is mean to make Dems look bad. It's what the Politico gets its money to do.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:16 PM
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12. Actually it doesn't take an article from anywhere to make those dems
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 01:18 PM by EV_Ares
look bad. No, did not get that at all about who or who shouldn't accept money from Move On. I agree with Move On, if those dems don't want to stand up to the right and do what they did, return the money.

Also, I have read The Politico a number of times and will continue to do so. Yes, sometimes you don't like what you read but it is more the untruths & lies I am concerned about not an article that unfortunately speaks the truth. They have put some articles out there that don't make the conservatives look so hot as well.

It puts out informative info and has writers from both parties that contribute.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:59 AM
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4. They brought it on themselves...
...and they deserve to be outed, regardless of who is doing the outing.

And yes, this is why our side always ends up looking unprincipled. Because there are always plenty of examples like this, that demonstrate quite clearly -- a lack of principles.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:13 AM
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7. Very true, my point exactly. What matters is what is reported is the
truth not lies. Doesn't matter where it comes from and these guys make it easy to make them look like the weak fools they are.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:04 AM
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5. They still have to run again in 08.
The democrats ought to run other candidates against them. While telling the people who voted for them, they aren't democrats they side with the republicans.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:13 AM
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8. Yes, make sure no money goes to them again. eom.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:18 AM
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9. I doubt very much that the folks at MoveOn, hold it against them
They know how things works.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 10:28 AM
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10.  The GOP is feeling really threatened---this is evidenced
by how they wail and all but curse the Left. The last few years
you had the Gingriches, Hannitys the OReilly's(says he is independent,
but sure uses ADM and GOP Talking Points) the Delays,--ALL GOPers
going around crowing--The country is Conservative--the Country
is conservative.

The past 6 years Americans have risen from their slumbers and
many many many are discovering they were taken down a primrose
path ( with no happy ending) . As America awakens and discovers
that there is much more to being conservative than GOD, GUNS and Gays:
they are discovering they do not agree with the Economic Fundamentalism
the Conservatives push. No the Country is not Lefty--nor is it
Righty. There are positions other than centrists. Americans
are discovering they had best find a government that looks out
for their interests--not just Corporate Interests.

THE GOP feel the squeeze. They howling all over TV. This coutry
is not going Left. The FarLeft Loons-- The Louder they scream
and name call means they are scared. Dems get out there and
push our side.
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