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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:15 AM
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Huff Po: Clinton Has Shattered "The Prism of The Right."
On January 22, 2007, as Senator Clinton went viral with her announcement that she was, essentially, running for The White House, we noted that her first challenge was to shatter the prism of the right. We wrote,

This simply is a fact of modern politics in America. For the past three decades, the right wing has employed a powerful strategy of "$ell and $mear." They insist on being the gatekeepers to public opinion and have developed a powerful machine that tells us who to like - and who to hate.

... They $mear Democratic and Progressive heroes, reducing American success stories such as George McGovern, Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis into humiliated historical footnotes. They destroy our leaders. They destroy those that might become our leaders. There is no Democratic or Progressive leader of any note of the last 20 years that has not been attacked.


Essentially, what we meant was:

Imagine if your worse enemies were the ones describing you and creating the world's impression of you. And imagine they did that for close to 15 years, how would people who hadn't ever met you feel about you? Exactly.

There are far too many people who have never met Hillary who have a fully-formed impression of her, usually quite negative. Not defendably negative, mind you, but more of a "I just don't like her" kind of impression.

The prism of the right.

We wrote:

This is Senator Clinton's primary challenge. Because since this strategy has been deployed, no one, not one single politician, has been in the eye of the machine longer than Senator Clinton. For almost 15 years, Americans have been bombarded with smears and negative commentary about her. Virtually every aspect of her life, personal and political, from her hairstyle to private decisions she made within her marriage, has been criticized.


That's the reality that Senator Clinton, her supporters and her staff have had to deal with every single day and to their great credit, they didn't either ignore it, as John Kerry's campaign did in 2004 on many levels, nor did they whine and complain about it.


What Hillary did was what she did in New York State.

She and her staff rolled up their sleeves and went to work. One voter at a time, one appearance at a time, one county, one district, one state. And what happened in New York State was a pretty good precursor to what is happening nationally. Today, she is at the top of the list of home state own-party favorability ratings. Her 81 percent favorability rating among Democrats in New York State is right up there at the very top, tied with Ted Kennedy's rating among Democrats in Massachusetts. And Kennedy in Massachusetts is probably the golden standard for being liked by your party in your own state.

Grudgingly, we hear from senior people in other campaigns that they are impressed at how hard she works, how good her team is, how they keep working all day, every day.

They're right. She's top in the polls and in the fundraising race not because of some unforeseeable chain of events; she's there because she understood the reality of her situation and she has outworked everyone else.

If she is our nominee, it will because of two core factors.

She didn't attempt to smash the negative perception as much as she shattered it softly and slowly -- one person at a time.

She, and her team, have worked hard, and smart.

Kudos to all of them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-johnson-and-james-boyce/hillary-clinton-mission-_b_66921.html
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:16 AM
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1. Clinton IS the prism of the right.
Give me a bfb.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:17 AM
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2. so says the nutjobs on the left
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:19 AM
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4. So true ... her "team" in the DLC has turned moderate republicans into democrats.
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 11:19 AM by ShortnFiery
That's quite a feat, in and of itself. :wow:

However, it leaves liberals and the amorphous left out in the cold. :shrug:
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:23 AM
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8. You can always vote for Nader, if you're that cold...
Was that too cold?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:26 AM
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12. This is going to come as a complete shock for you but I have NOT ever voted for Nader. n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:00 PM
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64. you were too young in 2000 and 2004.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:16 AM
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66. Bingo. SHE (and her husband) DESTROYED OUR FUCKING PARTY.
They destroyed liberalism itself- the idea that it is a GOOD thing to love and forgive your neighbor, to live your life for yourself and those closest to you as long as you don't hurt anyone, that money is not an object, that people should be valued over corporations and the products they consume, that politics is not simply a manipulation but a wholesale reaffirmation of what is TRUE AMONGST HUMANITY- naturally......
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:18 AM
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3. Right or left
Few actually like Hillary.


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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:20 AM
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5. ...all evidence to the contrary...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:21 AM
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7. Yes, all those sweet promises to celebrities and political sell out in addition
to skewed M$M polls who just "love a good story" keeps telling us that *we must like Hillary.*

Yet, I have yet to meet ONE person who likes her and/or supports HRC. :shrug:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:24 AM
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10. "sell out," "skewed," "M$M," all great new entries to my "Progressive" lexicon.
Here's one entry:

status quo: The majority of Americans who just happen to be wrong about everything.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:27 AM
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14. No, LIBERAL not Progressive. I don't appreciate mechanical and that is HRC. n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:31 AM
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19. no, "progressive."
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:47 AM
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36. no, "liberal."
No, "Duck Season!" Progressive

No, "Duck Season!" Progressive

No, "Rabbit Season!" LIBERALISM RULES! :party:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:25 AM
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11. What is your grad degree in again?
Astrology, phrenology, divination...the art of self delusion?

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #11
17. Yes, resort to personal insults - how very DLC - cunning - of you.
:evilgrin:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:35 AM
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24. So it's comedy...nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #24
37. Well, I did major in "Irritating SaveElmer" - it was all the rage!
:eyes:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:50 AM
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39. Nahhh...I have a wife for that...nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:53 AM
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46. Touché !
I bow to the master of this round. :patriot:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:50 AM
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38. you obviously have a doctorate in assholery ms. DLC
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:52 AM
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43. No, that "high and mighty honor" is reserved for you dionysus
:silly: :P
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:59 PM
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63. wah whatevah do you mean? ;)
ah do think we're on the same page...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:33 AM
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21. I'll bet everyone you meet supports Kucinich. Am I right?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:51 AM
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42. No, I live in a mostly right wing military or retired military community.
They are disillusioned with Dear Leader but hold on tight to their love of all things authoritarian. :shrug:
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:12 PM
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55. .
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 12:14 PM by BrightKnight
posted in the wrong place
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:27 AM
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13. There is no evidence to the contrary.
...
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:28 AM
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15. There is tons of it, starting with the new figures from the ABC/WaPo poll
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:29 AM
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18. Post it.
...
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:34 AM
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23. sure...
"...as of now, (Hillary) Clinton appears to be no more polarizing than other leading Democratic contenders. Nor is there a potential Republican nominee who appears significantly less polarizing... Forty-one percent of those surveyed said they definitely would not vote for Clinton in the general election if she were the Democratic nominee, one of the lowest "reject rates" among the leading candidates in either of the two major parties... more Americans, three in 10, said they definitely would support Clinton rather than any of the other leading candidates of either party.

At this point, a hypothetical matchup between Clinton and Giuliani shows the senator leading the former mayor 51 percent to 43 percent. When the Post-ABC News poll last tested the two against each other, in January, the race was a tossup, with Clinton at 49 percent and Giuliani at 47 percent. In the new poll, among those following the campaign very closely, Clinton enjoys a sizable lead -- 58 percent to 40 percent.

A Clinton-Giuliani race could produce a big gender gap. Men now split about evenly between the two, but Clinton's potentially groundbreaking candidacy draws heavy support among women, 57 percent to 39 percent.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/03/AR2007100302036.html?hpid=topnews
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:39 AM
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31. I didn't say that no one would vote for her.
I said no one LIKES her or her two faced warmongering right wing lite politics.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:44 AM
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33. so you're contention is many who will vote for her don't like her?
:rofl:

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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:53 AM
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45. Exactly
Same with Kerry in the last go-round.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:55 AM
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47. ...so why do you believe that is?
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:34 AM
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67. The same as for Kerry.
Dems are convinced that she can win. Didn't quite work out with Kerry. We'll see if it works any better this go-round.


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:34 AM
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22. Now you're being silly.
And this is such a bad place for that.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:32 AM
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20. Dear me, that doesn't seem to be true.
But keep repeating the meme.

One question: will you support the Democratic candidate or will you champion another Republican for the Roberts Court?

BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A POPULARITY CONTEST FOR TWELVE-YEAR-OLDS.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:36 AM
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26. I won't be held hostage.
If YOU don't want another Republican for the Roberts Court ... don't nominate Hillary.


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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:09 PM
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53. Just not so.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:45 AM
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65. That's a lie.
.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:21 AM
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6. K & R!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:35 AM
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25. More like, alert as flamebait.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:24 AM
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9. Like, schmike
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 11:24 AM by riqster
That's right up there with 'have a beer with' for sheer irrelevancy, and it is part of that prism identified in the OP.

We need to focus on the candidate's ability to do the job. Period.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:28 AM
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16. Do the job for who?
Corporations don't need more representation.


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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:40 AM
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32. Good point
...but it is a fact that the Reeps have been a LOT worse for America than any Dem ever was.

The Reeps have NO respect for the rule of law. They stole the White House. Twice.

The Reeps have destroyed the economy. They have raped nations, our rights, and the treasury.

The ONLY thing that MIGHT help is to boot them out. If we don't do that, we're guaranteed to be dead as a nation.

I am for DK, but I'll vote for our nominee in November '08.

(And DK ain't all that likeable, either. I support him because I like his vision, his tenacity, his willingness to take a hit. But I have never liked him or wanted to have beers with him. Or any of the current crop of delcared candidates.)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:38 AM
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30. Uh, didn't that article do just that?
Lady worked her tail off, district by district. No fuss, no muss, just hard work. Which shows in ratings for legislation and votes.

So far, all her opponents have is sheer ill will. And I'm damned sorry about that because I'm voting for one of them. In the primary. In the general, I will vote for the Democratic candidate.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:36 AM
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27. That was pretty thin writing: no dates, no names, no stories
I think Mr. Johnson has an interest to keep getting "invited" to the Clinton Global Initiative.

yawn
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:46 AM
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35. which is why there's this neat little invention call "the link" at the end of the OP
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:51 AM
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40. yeah, I read the whole link, Mr. Smarty, and there was a dearth of content there
I also looked at all of their other headlines and bios to determine that Mr. Johnson is just trying to stay in the good graces of the Clintons. Johnson's an ass kisser.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:52 AM
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44. then how did you miss the things you asked for, Mr... Grumpy.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:03 PM
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50. I notice that you cannot cite anything prescient from the Johnson kiss-ass article
But there's some great commentary in the Huff Po comments

Abo (See profile | I'm a fan of Abo)
The amazing thing there is so few people who actually support her on the Left. Even though we are constantly advised of how she is charging full steam ahead, if you check out all the Left-leaning blogs, no one likes her--no one. We don't like her because obviously she is willing to compromise (triangulate) on issues, whereas the Right hates her because they buy hook, line and sinker that she is a commie librul.
That doesn't bode well when either side is geared up against her.

NABNYC (See profile | I'm a fan of NABNYC)
Hard working? At hauling bags of money from crooked corporate donors to Bill and Hill's bank accounts. Committed: to what? How can you say that someone who supported the war in iraq, continues to vote to fund it, wants to keep it going for decades, and wants to start a war in Iran, is "committed?" I say she should be committed because of her anti-social tendencies.

And who noticed her announcement in the last debate that the U.S. must stay in the middle east to defeat Hamas and Hezbollah, neither of which are in Iraq. They are in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. Committed? Hard working? How hard is it to channel Ariel Sharon and his murderous rage?


She wants to take over Bush's war in Iraq and kill more people, start a war in Iran and kill people there, attack Lebanon and the Palestinian Territories. Maybe she wants to have her own genocidal murders named after her, like the "Sabra and Shatilla" genocides for Sharon.

I think she just wants money and power, and other than that will do exactly what Cheney and Murdoch tell her to do. She certainly does not promote any Democratic views. No commitment to public education, to health care (except telling us all to buy insurance), to peace, to prosperity (she wants us all to work at Wal-Mart). No commitment to workers (the Nafta Queen).

I think she's Cheney in drag. I'm not voting for her.

TN60 (See profile | I'm a fan of TN60)
Hillary has all of Bill's contacts to work for the money just as she rides his coattails for everything else. She is no more "qualified" than Obama or Edwards.

She is the most qualified at being a phony and a hypocrate. She is most certainly the most qualified at giving the Republicans a victory in 08.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:08 PM
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52. he asked for dates, names, and stories - the link provides all of that
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #52
54. Haw haw haw haw haw haw haw
he he he he he he

What was the question, Tim?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:06 PM
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51. It's totally On Message: Hillary is terrific, and in any case she's inevitable.
birdandcat (See profile | I'm a fan of birdandcat)
Ok first off, I'm rock solid D and will vote for anybody the d's put up for President. But that is about all I can say for Hillary Clinton. I saw Hillary give a talk at UM law school in 91 and she struck me as arrogant and having no idea how congress worked. she subsequently proved that she didn't understand how things work. she's still arrogant. Hillary Clinton combines the cunning of Nixon with the charisma of Dukakis.

DieboldHacker (See profile | I'm a fan of DieboldHacker)
I'm about as lefty and resistant to MSM spew as one can get, and I think she is just a DLC shill. I don't trust her, and I won't vote for her.
Log in | posted 12:50 pm on 10/03/2007
Qbear (See profile | I'm a fan of Qbear)
ALL her hard work was for NAUGHT.

When Hillary voted AYE on Kyl/Lieberman she ENDED her campaign. The sense of the Senate resolution is what Cheney will use to rationalize his attack on Iran...then Hillary's vote will make her more loathed than Ted Haggard at a tent revival.
I never had Hillary as my first choice as nominee, but would have held my nose and voted for her. I once hoped Obama would be her VP...now I don't. I can't/won't vote for Clinton, and if Obama was on the ticket I'd write in Edwards.
Log in | posted 12:40 pm on 10/03/2007
Independent_voter (See profile | I'm a fan of Independent_voter)
You say:
There are far too many people who have never met Hillary who have a fully-formed impression of her, usually quite negative. Not defendably negative, mind you.

I say:
You don't have to step in a pile of dung in order to know that it smells bad.


Perhaps you should wait until the people have a chance to vote before you hold the coronation.



Log in | posted 12:37 pm on 10/03/2007
LittleBrother (See profile | I'm a fan of LittleBrother)
I'm touched by this moving portrait of the candidate as seen through Hillary Kool-Aid goggles.

It's totally On Message: Hillary is terrific, and in any case she's inevitable. This is your chance to get in on the ground floor! I'm sure Peter Daou and Hillary are very pleased with the work you're doing.

Thanks, but no thanks.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:37 AM
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28. You gotta have a "fire in the belly" to run for POTUS these days,
and, like her or not, Hillary has that in spades.

I saw her IN PERSON back in 2000 when she was running for US Senate in my home area (Westchester County, NY); and it is quite true - up close and personal, she is NOT the cold fish she is often portrayed by TV.

While I have not put any emotional or financial stake in any of the Democratic POTUS candidates (and have no intention to do so), whoever wins the nomination will have my unqualified support. Yes, even if it is Hillary.

The worst Democrat in the current crop of POTUS candidates is still a thousand times better than the best Republikkkan. Republikkkans cannot govern, legislate, litigate, handle emergencies, fight wars, or care for our veterans.
And they obviously don't care about our sick children. THAT alone will destroy them in 2008.

:kick:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:38 AM
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29. Al Gore called it "The Assault on Reason" (n/t)
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:45 AM
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34. The corporate media smears and negative commentary
will begin the day after the convention and continue without mercy until November 2008.
It's going to make the swift boat gang look like pikers.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:51 AM
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41. ...but 2008 will be totally different than 2004 (since we're both playing psychic here)
Some really odd group called "LawyersForTruth" or something like that will start a swiftboat campaign against Hillary (or Obama or Edwards.) Within 24 hours, that group will be exposed, their members embarassed, their funding revealed, and a counter attack will be launched against Rudy/Thompson/Romney 10 times as vicious and in twice the television markets.

Within 48 hours, Rudy/Thompson/Romney will be on TV condemning the group that attacked Hillary and calling for a clean campaign from both camps.

See, people, when a bully pushes you, you grab a baseball bat and shove it up their ass. The Clintons have a history of playing offense. That is one of the GOOD things lots of money in a campaign does.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:55 AM
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48. Yes
"You wanna know how you do it? Here's how, they pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way, and that's how you get Capone! Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that?"
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:00 PM
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49. "Are you ready to do that?" I was BORN ready!
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:57 PM
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56. I hope you are right
It's been frustrating over the years to experince these RW smear jobs without an equally brutal response.
I look forward to it.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:59 PM
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57. Agreed. the right wants her to be the nominee, hence the silence
and frankly open promotion of HRC by GWB.

If she wins the nomination the it no holds barred. We will be innundated on the airwavies, print media, etc. with ever potentially lurid, scandalous thing they can come up with.

We don't need that next election. the issues are too critical!
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:26 PM
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60. The right wants You to think they want her to be the nominee
Just like they convinced all the soft Dean support that they couldn't wait for him. It's what they Do!

Stop letting them run our campaign and telling you who to believe.

Repeat after me.

Nothing they say is true. Everything they say has hidden meaning.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:19 PM
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58. Thanks for posting this wyldwolf
It's like I said in a previous thread/journal http://journals.democraticunderground.com/NewHampster/5 . The Hillary team and everyone involved is working their butts off.

I work the phones, canvass, blog and spend most of my non-work hours on the Hillary campaign and I'm normal for the volunteers.

My dear wife and other non-Hillary supporters I know just preach to the choir at home or in places like DU. They aren't doing any real work and I hope they keep it up.

Hillary is winning because she is a winner.
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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:25 PM
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59. K & R I think she looks more presidential as each day goes by.
I know that irks the haterz here on DU. But they just squawk to hear themselves...errrr..squawk.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:29 PM
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61. Be nice
They'll all be Hill Stars come February.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:41 PM
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62. The real test is after a nominee is picked. Right now there is a "phony war"
being waged by the Right. It is too early to tell how well Hillary or any other candidate will do against a fully loaded Right Wing Noise Machine.
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