Only Arrogance Could Sink Clinton Now

[sampsonblk]

Time to face the facts: Hillary Clinton is running away with the nomination. We are looking at a landslide in the primaries. As I have said (many times) she hasn't even used all the resources at her disposal yet. Some who deeply hate Mrs Clinton are going to be very depressed when she pulls out the heavy guns for the Iowa caucuses. Every big name Dem you can imagine is going to be in Iowa stumping for Clinton prior to the voting. She wants to win by a large margin to erase any doubt. And I believe she will.

Unless she gets cocky. Her staff and supporters are apparently fast on their way to that point.
(http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/05/call-him-mr-exuberance/)

If Mrs Clinton does not continue to give a full effort, or if she behaves like some of her supporters, the people of Iowa may give her a big surprise.

If she continues to be focused 100% on the goal of a convincing, swift end to the nomination process, then I think there is no stopping her. She is going to make history.

[Lautremont]

1. So you're saying she's doomed? (nt)

[Tellurian]

4. So, you're saying IOWA residents are of the same mindset as DU????????

:rofl:

[Lerkfish]

12. LOL!

[still_one]

If she is the nominee, but loses the general election, whose fault is it? /nt

[Yael]

3. Ours. For not putting a stop to it while we had the chance.

[still_one]

17. What about the fact that it is really not us choosing the candidate but the party machine

with the illusion that we are part of that machine?

[MGKrebs]

38. Are you not a member of the Party?

[durrrty libby]

20. No .. you mean ours, because we didn't get the vote out.

[still_one]

23. It may be a lot of things, but in consideration I think your assertion may be right

Unless of course she does have too much baggage from the past

[Yael]

34. Unfortunately, that will be a hard sell

:(

[sampsonblk]

11. Depends

If we choose her only because we think she can win, then it would be partly our fault. If she runs a poor campaign, then it will be at least partly her fault.

If we pick her her mainly because we she best represents our views, and if she runs a great campaign, then I'd say no blame needs to be assigned. Can't win 'em all.

[calteacherguy]

21. In my opinion, she is the one with the STRONGEST chance of winning the GE. nt

[Yael]

2. Gets?

:rofl:

We passed that milestone a way back. Keep telling independent thinkers that their minds have already been made up for them and see how far that flies.

[Bluebear]

5. 'she hasn't even used all the resources at her disposal yet' - well that's a revolting idea

What is Mark Penn cooking up?

[rsmith6621]

6. She Sunk Along Time Ago.....

.....Then......She is not going to get the NOD....

[durrrty libby]

7. I agree with you and I am enormously happy with her progress.

She is holding back right now and she will not get off track

[Bullet1987]

9. And Clinton supporters act lost when you say

that none of them talk about her inevitability.

[sampsonblk]

13. That's because the term is distasteful

Truth is, she's running a stellar campaign. She has enough money, and her effort is excellent from top to bottom.

Call it inevitability if you like. But the chance of someone in this field beating her is pretty slim. She's in great shape.

[durrrty libby]

14. You may be lost. I am not. I said I am happy with her progress.

Got a problem with happiness?

[Bullet1987]

16. No, Clinton supporters like Wyldwolf always act like none of you people

pump the inevitability meme and it's all a figment of the non-Clinton supporters imaginations. That's BS...as this thread so proves.

[durrrty libby]

25. "you people"??? "proves"???

Save Bandwith............Save America...........Stop Posting BullShit Crap Lies


And for the love of all that is holy...Stop whining:cry:

[emilyg]

29. I like Happy.

[durrrty libby]

32. Me too emily.......me too

[peacebird]

8. She is already cocky. If M$M covers the Penn affiliation she will sink like a rock

Hopefully the unions will make a serious effort to get Penns activities out in front of all their members and the rest of the public.

She must be defeated and soundly. I supported the big Dawg but his recent calls for "Jack Bauer" types to torture 'bad guys' nauseates me. And what I have learned about the after effects of NAFTA - well, I'm ashamed to say that I trusted him so much that I never looked into the effects of NAFTA until after it passed.

He screwed the American worker and gave a huge gift to corporations with that one. Penn is a strong corporatist, as is HRC - based upon her "health" plan which is truly a huge INSURANCE plan, a gift to the insurance companies more than a health care plan for the people.

HRC must be defeated. And I believe she will. The corporations are very interested in convincing people that she is invincible. Murdoch wants to sell that also. She isn't.

[durrrty libby]

33. should be loonybird

[NC_Nurse]

10. Well, she's done then.

[jcrew2001]

15. There will be a mass exodus of Democrat voters in the general election

nt

[calteacherguy]

19. What a ludicrous statement. Hillary Clinton is the most popular Democrat among Democrats. nt

[sampsonblk]

22. Wow...

That's an unbelievable statement.

[calteacherguy]

18. Obama is a fine candidate, but what Hillary brings to the table is hard to beat. nt

[flyarm]

24. GORE WILL SINK HER! ido not believe Gore will let her be the nominee! RUN AL RUN! eom

[durrrty libby]

26. Time to face the truth. Al has gone soft. Al has gone Hollywood

[Lucinda]

27. Naw...I don't think so.

He's found a venue for ideas that have been important to him his whole life and he's making the most of it. Nothing soft about that.

I'm in a minuscule, tiny, tiny, minority that doesn't want him to run for president because he is uniquely positioned to do something tangible that will help us all. We have plenty of options with the current dem candidates to get this admins mess cleaned up. He can work on saving the planet.

[durrrty libby]

28. I know it's difficult to come to grips with. It took me a long time

[emilyg]

30. He will not run.

[Lucinda]

31. I still think he might after the Nobel awards are made

But I hope he doesn't.

[ShortnFiery]

35. I'm depressed with the ruse that the M$M and DLCers have made of HRC.

Neo-Liberalism is just as horrific and warmongering as Neo-Conservatism.

I couldn't be more depressed: "Meet the new boss ... the same as the old boss." :(

[mmonk]

36. Running away with it before the first vote is cast?

Interesting perspective. Should we just agree for the press to call her the winner and call it a day?

[sampsonblk]

37. We know better than that

There's always the possibility of something strange happening. In fact, its safe to say that before its over, something strange will definitely happen. Happens every time.

She's in the best position. But it ain't over till its over.

[PurityOfEssence]

39. Well, she's got plenty. I just hope it happens in the primaries.

It's all so very hard to believe: lefties liking this person.