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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:49 AM
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Must read! For once, we played "hardball" to kill California ballot plan to elect a GOP President!
San Francisco Chronicle: State Dem group played hardball to kill GOP election system plan
Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer
Sunday, October 7, 2007

They called themselves "The Lincoln Brigade."

Even as Democrats feared having to spend as much as $40 million for a bruising, bloody fight expected to drag on for months, this makeshift group of California Democratic operatives needed just weeks to pummel a Republican-funded push for a ballot measure that threatened to change the outcome of the 2008 presidential election. The ruthlessly effective battle plan of the California Democrats' group raises the specter that, as the 2008 election looms, Republicans may have to confront a far more aggressive Democratic ground game that has revived the old "Clinton war room" philosophy.

"We need to fight back and not be reluctant - that if they come after you with a knife, to pull out a gun," said California Democratic strategist Chris Lehane, former spokesman for President Bill Clinton's White House and Vice President Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign....After two terms of Republican control of the White House - and angered by what they perceived as a history of electoral "dirty tricks" by GOP strategists such as President Bush's key adviser Karl Rove - the Democrats' response in California could serve as an indication of what lies ahead in the 2008 battle for the White House....

Lehane and (Margie Sullivan, a former chief of staff to three Clinton Cabinet secretaries) are some of the lead players in the group, which includes many former insiders from the Clinton administration. They named their group after the brigade of American volunteers who fought against fascism in the Spanish Civil War. After events such as the 2000 Florida presidential election recount, the 2003 California recall election that ousted Democratic Gov. Gray Davis, the 2004 "Swift Boat" campaign against Sen. John Kerry, "Democrats are waking up to reality, " said Doug Boxer, the son of U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer and a Bay Area consultant who was political director for the effort against the ballot measure....

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The goal, Sullivan said, was to "strangle the baby in the cradle" and kill the ballot measure early, rather than let it qualify for the ballot - where it would be much tougher and more expensive to beat. As the campaign in favor of the measure prepared to circulate the petitions and get the voter signatures needed to qualify it for the ballot, Doug Boxer contacted every major Democratic elected official from mayors to state legislators to California's U.S. senators...(Tom Steyer, a longtime major party donor and lead fundraiser for Kerry who heads San Francisco-based Farallon Capitol) and Sullivan hit the phones, rounding up financial backing and commitments from deep-pocketed donors...Pollster Paul Maslin's early focus groups found that a slim majority of Californians initially backed the Republicans' call for an end to "winner take all," so the Democrats began a daily drumbeat aimed at the media - press conferences, meeting with the state's leading editorial boards and outreach to Internet Web sites and blogs....At one point, "Norman Lear pitched in on a script change," Lehane said. "That made us nervous ... it's was kind of like Picasso giving you advice on painting."

Frank Russo, publisher of the California Progress Report, a popular Democratic Web site, said the strategy achieved "a clarion call that went out to all the troops," prompting netroots activists such as the Courage Campaign and Daily Kos loyalists to pound the issue to the grassroots. "It was like the old Who song: We won't get fooled again," he said....

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/10/07/MNSESIOTG.DTL
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:51 AM
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1. Whooot!
:woohoo:
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:55 AM
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19. must have really hurt carla to write this article, her normal
political writing is 90% republican worship with a healthy heaping of criticizing Democrats at random. She's such a crappy political writer that this article leads me to believe our party did far better than she's letting on. I sincerely hope our party leaders do more of the same in all 50 states this year.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:52 AM
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2. Clinton killed this?
Now if only they can make the Sun rise in the east, we'll be all set.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:58 AM
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4. I don't think the article is saying that at all. The Clinton administration...
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 09:59 AM by DeepModem Mom
was our last in power; it's natural that some who aided in his campaigns/administration would be active in something like this. Barbara Boxer is quoted as saying that something of the Bill Clinton way of operating is back. Okay by me -- he ran damn good campaigns.

And Hillary Clinton is not mentioned in the article.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:03 AM
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5. I count 18 "Clintons" in that story.
Sounds like political propaganda to me.


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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:13 AM
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6. I respect your opinion -- but mainly I'm just glad we killed the damn thing, quickly.
That was my point, at least, in posting the article. I don't engage in candidate wars here -- just post articles, both pro and con, about all the candidates.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:41 AM
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10. I wasn't accusing you ...
Of propaganda. Just the writer.


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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:57 AM
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12. No prob, jmp!
:)
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:56 AM
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3. *Now* we're figuring this out?
They've been fighting us with every means at their disposal since God knows when, and *now* we've decided to do the same? Geez... were all those other times less important or are we collectively all just that oblivious?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:22 AM
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7. Do, please, snatch that defeat from victory.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:37 AM
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9. It's so frickin' frustrating that this is the exception rather than the norm.
Except, I feel much better now that Dean is running the DNC.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:08 AM
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13. Me too
Like I've said, at first I only supported him because I wanted his enthusiastic supporters to stay with the party because I knew we'd be better off with them than without them. But, over the past few years his organization style and attention to the issues has really impressed me. He's going to be a tough act to follow.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:15 AM
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14. Dean flew in like Superman! From the article --
"Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean flew to San Francisco for a press conference with labor leaders to 'make it very clear from the beginning that the new Democratic Party is not going to take it lying down - we still stand and fight,' said DNC spokesman Karen Finney."
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:43 AM
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18. Interesting the "new" Democratic party used Clinton staff and tactics...
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:26 AM
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8. I don't know how much of a "win" that was.
The republican organization never really supported it, the republican governor said he'd veto it, it was never funded by the republicans. The idea was still born even if the democrats didn't lift a finger to oppose it.

I'll wait for a real victory before patting myself on the back.
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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:42 AM
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11. Okay, you win.
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 10:43 AM by petersjo02
No good news in this story anyway. :sarcasm:
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:41 AM
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17. I never said it wasn't good news, but go ahead and
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 11:42 AM by cobalt1999
Call me when those dems are taking on the on an issue the republicans ARE actually fighting for. In this case, a bunch of dems are patting themselves on the back for winning when the republicans didn't even show up for the fight.

They'll have to do more than that to impress me.

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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:21 AM
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15. I met Chris Lehane once, quite awhile ago
he kind of scared me with his zeal for attacking. Keep in mind this is before I understood the insidious and evil nature of Karl Rove and his brand of disgusting hate mongering.

I now think that any democratic nominee we have should hire Lehane and use him and his friends as front line attack dogs. We saw the disruption that a well orchestrated smear campaign can cause in the swift-boat liars group when not hit hard early. Lehane and Sullivan, IMO, would never have allowed that to go a day without a strong and somewhat nasty response.

To use Sullivans, not so subtle, and kind of ghoulish terminology, we need to strangle every repuke attack in the cradle.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:16 PM
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20. Amen. nt
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:27 AM
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16. This has that Clinton smell all over it - including the name Averell "Ace" Smith.
The Clinton are putting waaaay to much time and money in California to let the GOP steal it.
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LuvMyPorsche Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:40 PM
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21. bad idea
good riddance from a native Californian.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:44 PM
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22. You're right, LuvMyPorsche -- welcome to DU!
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