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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:49 PM
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I have a challenge for the Clinton and Obama supporters.
Could each of you cite something you like about the other candidate (Obama supporters about Clinton and vice versa) whether it be a position or an accomplishment? I'm going to try and change the tenor in GD politics a little bit. Are you up to the challenge?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:51 PM
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1. sure.
I happen to like that he's adopted/modified New Democrat/DLC policy positions. They're smart and they show people you can offer an alternative to the right wing without going way to the opposite direction.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:55 PM
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When Was Obama In Favor Of Attacking Iraq?
Or of permanent "free" trade status for China?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:59 PM
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8. LOL! You have such a limited knowledge.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:59 PM
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9. I Guess I Shouldn't Expect An Answer
Same as it ever was.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:01 PM
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11. would you like to discuss the policies Obama borrowed from the New Dem movement?
They are numerous. I can even quote page numbers from his book.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:03 PM
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14. Attacking Iraq And "Free" Trade With China Are The Most Important
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 10:06 PM by MannyGoldstein
issues of our time, by far. Everything else is a minor detail, no?

P.S. - I'm not particularly an Obama supporter.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:06 PM
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15. to you. But they are just two out of volumes. But I see you're afraid to explore it.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 12:37 AM
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30. Loss of perspective much?
That you would ignore two issues that overshadow all the others cause you don't like the answer is quite telling. Not surprising, just telling.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:53 AM
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34. Comprehend much? Quote me where I've IGNORED anything.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:45 PM
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41. How about this:
to you. But they are just two out of volumes. But I see you're afraid to explore it.

I think that counts as ignoring or brushing something aside.

But its ok, I've come to expect such intellectual sloppiness from you.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:31 PM
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22. LOL
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:20 AM
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37. LOL
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:51 PM
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2. I have something very nice to say about both of them
One of them will be our next president.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:52 PM
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3. Well, as a Hillary supporter, I admire Barack's previous work as a community organizer
in Chicago, and I also really enjoyed his speech at the 2004 Dem Convention - that was truly inspiring!
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:53 PM
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4. I Like That Mrs. Clinton Is Not In Favor Of War With Canada
That I know of.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:55 PM
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5. .
:spank:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:57 PM
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7. Sorry. Wyldwoof's Comment Made Me Do It.
Which is not a good excuse, I know.

Sorry.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:00 PM
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10. would you like to discuss the policies Obama borrowed from the New Dem movement?
They are numerous. I can even give you page numbers from his book.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:12 PM
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16. Guess I shouldn't expect an answer
same as it always was.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:27 PM
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19. No problem.
Adding levity.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 01:32 AM
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32. Yeah, I was just thinking "this is going well..." nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:13 AM
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35. All one can do is try.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:09 AM
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39. Now that is totally uncalled for!
and as soon as I stop laughing I plan to give you a stern talking to!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:56 PM
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6. I admire Hillary's tremendous inner strength and fortitude.
Without question, she's a fine role model.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:02 PM
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12. I admire Hillary's political saavy.
She's tough and smart.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:03 PM
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13. sure
although I'm not officially a Clinton Supporter, I must say I remember clearly watching Obama give that now famous speech in 2004, turning to my partner and saying "He could be President one day ... seriously". It was amazing.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:47 PM
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25. I said the same
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 10:49 PM by Mojorabbit
thing to my husband that night. His campaign has been too careful though for my taste but then I am really left wing except when it comes to the second amendment and there I part with most left wingers.
I understand the need for not upsetting the applecart during a campaign but I am looking for some boldness and vision.

As for Hillary Clinton, well she has run a good campaign if the polls are correct. I just have a gut reaction to her which is my inner voice. Every time I have not listened to that voice, I have always been sorry... but she would be loads better than any of the republican candidates.

I still have not picked anyone as my choice.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:20 PM
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17. Obama isn't afraid to talk about his faith
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:26 PM
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18. I liked her legislation after 9/11
that helped out the victims and workers.
I do think it's sad that we can't get through this exercise without some people using it to launch veiled attacks on the other candidate.
I think the only thing that will stop this petty fighting is if members of each camp take it upon themselves to call out (privately or publicly) other members who are causing trouble.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:27 PM
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20. I think either one of them will eventually sync up to
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 10:28 PM by NYCALIZ
become the President of the people, rather than the President of the political party
if either one of them is elected

alternatively Bush being the leader of his party especially as he pushes them over the cliff like lemmings is possibly his most endearing trait (LOL)

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:30 PM
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21. Yes, their lemming trait is quite noticeable.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:35 PM
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23.  isn't it Bush's finest trait
that he doesn't spare the GOP from his rampage of destruction

break the founding principles
ignore the Constitution
turn the US into a rogue state
destroy US reputation amoung its allies
ruin the future for average American citizens.

but destroy the GOP as well.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:42 PM
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24. I like how Clinton has stood up for children's health issues over the years
She is fantastic at that. As a mother, I can see the connection she has to that very important issue.

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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:14 PM
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26. Kick. n/t
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:15 PM
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27. I Obama's inspiring rhetoric. His speeches are almost evangelical (not in a bad way). nt
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 12:10 AM
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28. Obama's speech had me cheering.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 12:29 AM
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29. Good for you for starting this thread. k/r!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:18 AM
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36. It was getting a little clogged in GD politics with inane negative posts.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 01:15 AM
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31. Hillary is very good
At staying focused on her message. I would also have to give her an A+ as a mother based upon how Chelsea turned out. Kudos to her for being strong willed.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 02:10 AM
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33. Hillary was very tolerant of Monica. They are both so sweet.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:57 AM
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38. Clinton would be a very good replacement for Harry "Spineless" Reid.
n/t.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:29 AM
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40. I'll say this about Hillary, since I'm an Obama supporter
but it actually applies to Obama, as well.

They both have dynamic spouses who won't fall in line with the traditional First Lady role.

Another positive about Hillary, just to play fair. I admire her ability to keep her priorities in check following the Lewinsky scandal. She could have left Bill and thrown her future political ambitions away, but she saw the forest through the trees. That foresight brought her to where she is today.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:47 PM
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42. I think Obama does a great job on government transparency/reform
And I have said many times that he would be wise to make it the centerpiece of his campaign.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:50 PM
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43. I like a lot of things about Hillary Clinton
Most recently I liked the (now aborted) baby bond idea and the 401K plan.
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