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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:05 PM
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Hillary Clinton Dismissed as a Defendant in California Fundraising Dispute
By Terry Heath CLOUT INDEX
Published Oct 18, 2007

A California state appeals court has upheld a previous ruling made in Los Angeles Superior Court which dismisses Hillary Clinton as a defendant in a civil lawsuit over the financing of a 2000 Hollywood fundraiser for her first senate campaign that was to honor the tenure of former President Bill Clinton. But the appeal judges also ruled that the plaintiff in the case may still be allowed to depose the former First Lady once discovery in the matter commences.

The plaintiff in the case, North Carolina businessman Peter Franklin Paul, had filed a civil suit in 2004 against Bill and Hillary Clinton and her 2000 New York U.S. Senate election committee to recover over one million dollars in expenses he claimed he incurred when putting together the event in Los Angeles which was billed as a 'Farewell Salute to President Clinton.'

He alleged in the original complaint that the former president later reneged on an oral agreement to become a spokesperson for Paul's internet animation company called 'Stan Lee Media,' so he filed the suit to recover the money that paid for the event which were taken from the company's funds.

The three judges for the Seventh Division of the Second Appellate District for California issued their brief October 16. It stated 'the orders granting Senator Clinton and Clinton for Senate's motion to strike and denying Paul's motion for leave to depose Senator Clinton are affirmed. Senator Clinton and Clinton for Senate are to recover their costs on appeal.'

More at the link http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/417956/hillary_clinton_dismissed_as_a_defendant.html

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:15 PM
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1. According to the article, this case will come to trial just when
the general election campaigns start next year.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:18 PM
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3. The Court Ruled She's Not A Defendant...
If I see Mr.X get hit by a car I can be deposed by Mr.X's lawyers but my exposure is zero...
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:32 PM
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6. Yeah, but if you were sitting in the front set and you had been out drinking
with the driver.....
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:49 PM
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9. LOL. If you really want to dwell on this phony story, I suggest
you join Free Republic. The guy that's pumping it, posts there all the time.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:56 PM
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11. This Story Is Right Up There With Mena Airport
eom
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:09 PM
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14. You don't think the Contras were using Mena airport?
There is no proof of Clinton involvement and many loony stories way beyond believability - but it is not true that nothing happened.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:39 PM
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20.  I Don't Think The Clintons Were Involved In Anything Nefarious There
That was the context...
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:17 PM
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2. I'm not surprised.
Paul is scum. But that doesn't mean this will quietly go away.

Since that particular dispute between the two sides has now been adjudicated in the appeals court, depositions of all the remaining parties in the dispute, including a possible questioning of Bill Clinton by Paul's attorneys, can move along the discovery process which will eventually lead to a trial on the remaining allegations before Judge Munoz sometime next year.

That should be occurring just as the national presidential election will becoming the focus of attention for everyone in the nation, especially if a certain female U.S. senator with the same last name also becomes the nominee of her party in a quest for the country's highest office.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:20 PM
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4. That's A Favorite Right Wing Tactic
File non-meritorious or non-colorable lawsuits and waste your opponent's time and money to hire lawyers to depose them...


Been there...Done that...
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:32 PM
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5. I don't think Peter Paul is a shill for the right wing.
I think he is a con man who skirts the law a lot and who feels he got taken by the Clintons. It's a hard story to untangle, but Mr. Paul charges that Mr. Clinton made a side deal with Mr. Paul's silent partner ( the one who was supplying the money) and that they froze Mr. Paul out.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:37 PM
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7. He's Implying That Clinton Promised To Be A "Rain Man" For Him And Reneged
Clinton has money coming out of his, errrrr, ears, and doesn't have to be a "rain man" for a B movie Hollywood producer...
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:39 PM
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8. So, you're saying Mr. Paul arranged the gala for Ms. Clinton
simply because he wanted to increase her chances of becoming the junior seantor from New York State?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:54 PM
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10. Some Points... Some Less Germaine Than Others...And Suggestions
1) You obviously have a candidate in this race other than Ms. Clinton... I suggest if you want that candidate to be successful you argue his assets as opposed to the liabilities you see in Ms. Clinton... Attacking the Clintons doesn't work...At the end of the Starr investigation Clinton had a 70% approval rating and Ken Starr had a 9% approval rating...

2) If my memory serves me correct Mr. Paul is on his second right wing law firm...He fired his first one because they were deficient...

3) The Clintons were dismissed as defendants ...There's no there there...And even if they were defendants anybody with $150.00 can file a claim in civil court...Important people always attract nuts...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:05 PM
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12. It's Just A Coincidence That Every Right Wing Group Has Embraced His Cause
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=peter+franklin+paul&btnG=Google+Search

And his case is being prosecuted by a right wing law group after he fired the first one ...
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 03:11 PM
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21. Well, it's unlikely he'd get backing from the left wing!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:08 PM
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13. Ironically, she may have been better off as a defendant.
Defendants participate in the scheduling of discovery, including depositions.

Now, she really has no control over when depositions in that case--including hers--will be scheduled.

Testifying under oath is a major hassle, requiring quite a bit of preparation. And you can bet that some lawyers will do everything they can to trip her up.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:10 PM
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15. The good thing is that she has significant legal experience...
I trust she knows what she's doing on this one.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:12 PM
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16. So Did Bill But Bill Had A Lot More Exposure...
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 01:15 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
She'll be fine... I just said it before one of her detractors did...

Read about the case... There's no there there... Just another asshole with an axe to grind and a right wing law firm there to assist him...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:17 PM
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17. Heh... gotcha.
:hi:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:26 PM
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18. I Like Any Democrat....
That can beat the Republican... I was lukewarm about a Gore candidacy but if he could do better than the others next November I'd support him ... I just don't see it now...It's a cruel joke he lost the 00 election...It hurts, even now to think about it...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:28 PM
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19. Same here. I'm for any Dem that's on a ballot.
However one views their shortcomings, they are all MILES better than repukes. FACT.

I see a Gore candidacy going much differently this time around. :7
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 03:14 PM
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22. For those who don't know what we are talking about -
From that right wing site, Wikipedea

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_F._Paul
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