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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 03:33 PM
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Neither Obama nor Clinton leading anything.
Although these two are at the front of the democratic horserace, the real leaders seem to be back in the pack. It is unfortunate that neither of the two "front runners" have led any kind of democratic charge. Joining with someone else doesn't count--I don't want a co-president. Perhaps they should both step aside
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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 03:34 PM
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1. Mark my post. Edwards or Richardson will win the nomination
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 03:56 PM
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6. What A Wish To Have! Let's Make The WISH Come True!!
I really think Edwards is the best one myself! And I'm sick and tired of hearing that IT'S OVER already!!



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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 03:57 PM
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8. I'll wish with you.
And our wish will become a reality! Tomorrow begins today!
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 03:37 PM
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2. So, you're uninformed on Obama, and then claim others are "front runners" without proof.
Brilliant, and desperate, post.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 03:39 PM
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3. What has he led? Name the legislation that he has sponsored.
Not the bills he has agreed with or joined later. What has he sponsored himself?
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 03:41 PM
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4. At least Hillary can say she tried health care when first lady
albeit that was a very long time ago and I don't think it was her job to "lead" it--it was Bill's job to twist the arms necessary to get it done. But I don't think that counts as leadership int he current time.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:21 PM
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9. John Edwards Put His Health Care Plan Out There Before She Did
this time around, and it was HE who called her out at the last Debate about her Kyl/Lieberman vote! But who are we hearing about that is attacking Clinton about that vote?? Obama!!

And I like Obama, but let's give credit where credit is due!!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:30 PM
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10. Now You Know How It Feels...
But, sir, you are one hundred percent correct...

Reminds me of professional wrestling when Ric Flair said "if you want to be the man you have to beat the man." Let the other candidates beat Obama or Clinton if they can...
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:16 PM
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11.  ... er
"if you want to be the man you have to beat the woman" doesn't have quite the same ring to it. :silly:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:18 PM
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12. Ha
I loved Ric Flair's shtick but that's for another thread...
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 03:42 PM
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5. Except trying to save the country...
From neo-con fascist lunatics, incompetents and crooks.

Those on the edge rarely lead the pack.

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 03:56 PM
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7. Huh? So now you lead from behind?
Those grapes are sour, aren't they?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:35 PM
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13. Obama blocked the Von Spakovsky vote in the Senate.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:13 PM
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14. Hello? Bueller?
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 07:16 PM by AtomicKitten
Hmmmmmmmm. I guess actual evidence that Obama has, in fact, not "done nothing to lead" isn't something some wish to consider.
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