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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:56 PM
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While I don't think that Clinton's win is "invevitable"
I don't think that comparison to Howard Dean from 2004 is valid.

Howard Dean came from nowhere - at least for the ones not familiar with politics of the Northeast - while Clinton... well, there is not much we do not know about her and her politics and her political path.

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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:59 PM
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1. Other than the fact that both were/are the presumptive nominee a couple months before the primary...
I don't really see any comparison. :shrug:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:59 PM
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2. I won't even go as far as saying likely.
We have better candidates to solve the problems of America in the 21st C. Ones with no relationship to NAFTA, for example.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:09 PM
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7. But if she is the nominee
you know that she will appoint Supreme Court justices who will stop the right wing tilting.

There will be at least one, perhaps three vacancies - all by liberals. And whatever you dislike about Bill Clinton (NAFTA) he did nominate Ruth Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:15 PM
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8. Actually, she can't do that as a nominee.

Though as president, the opportunity may arise.

Now, would the other Democrats hoping to become president be less likely to nominate non-right wing tilting people to SCOTUS?

Your post (and that of others I've seen here) seem to suggest that.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:21 PM
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10. Sorry, I went ahead of myself
I have seen too many posts here saying that if she is the nominee they will not vote for her so I jumped with my counter comment.

Of course you are correct in your correction.
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:00 PM
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3. Hey, Vermont is somewhere!
Just kidding.
I remember one time I was in the mid-west in a bar
and a guy asked me where I was from and I told him
Vermont.
He says "wow, you speak pretty good english, welcome to America, let me buy you a drink."
I was a bit broke and he was buyin so I let it slide.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:07 PM
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4. And do you remember the story of the 1996 Olympics
when someone from New Mexico wanted to buy tickets and was told that he could not buy tickets directly from the office in Atlanta, but had to go through the foreign offices in his country?

And with the Craig affair was fun to see the Idaho, Iowa, Ohio confusion by many "pundits," except for Colbert who said that Craig was from Ohio; that there are no gays in that true red state of Idaho...



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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:09 PM
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6. LOL. You should try living in Alaska sometime.
:rofl: You'd be amazed at how many people don't know we're part of the United States.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:08 PM
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5. Assumptions before the vote are just worthless.
That's the comparison.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:37 PM
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9. It's EXACTLY the same
only completely different :D
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Rhythm and Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:24 PM
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11. Plus, Dean relied on the netroots and the youth for momentum.
Hillary has a famously efficient machine. There will be no scream moment for her.
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