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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:37 PM
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Obama and the Supreme Court
Other than the Toobin article, is there any real truth to the idea that, should Obama fail to obtain the Democratic nomination, a President Hillary R. Clinton would nominate the 46 year old Obama to either Steven's or Ginsburg's inevitably vacant seat?

He is a Harvard Law grad; the first black president of Harvard law review; civil rights attorney; constitutional law scholar at U of Chicago; and importantly, he is a great writer. His judicial opinions would undoubtedly read very well. He is young, only 46; so he seemingly would be on the court for 25-30 years. He is also a Senator, which would help his success rate when he has to be vetted. The Senate won't want to destroy one of their own. Not to mention he's very popular in his own right. He has a very academic demeanor and the job would suit him well. The lack of judicial experience may hurt, but one Earl Warren was never a judge prior to his nomination to the bench. I like the idea; do you?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:38 PM
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1. Obama needs to be President of the United States, not a judge.
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 09:38 PM by Katzenkavalier
Why doesn't Hillary take that seat herself?
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:52 PM
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8. The SCOTUS is very important.
They have lifetime tenure and are the third co-equal branch of government. Issues such as abortion, gay rights, civil liberties, and free speech will all ultimately be decided by the Supreme Court.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:55 PM
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9. He might be qualified
but I think he won't make it. Not because he is not a very good candidate. But no matter how you approach it this country is a long way from accepting a black person to be president. That is also one of the hurdles that Hillary faces. This country is probably not ready to accept a woman either.

I think IF and that's IF she gets to be president one of the best things she can do for this country would be to appoint Obama IF he would accept it that is.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:40 PM
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11. Agreed
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:44 PM
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2. He is eminently qualified, but I prefer to see Obama in the White House.
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:45 PM
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3. His recent religiosity means no SCOTUS - Prez OK but not SCOTUS n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:48 PM
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4. a bit early to be chosing judges - but Obama could be a great judge if he does not get
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 09:48 PM by papau
the Presidency and wants out as Senator.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:49 PM
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5. Bill Clinton would be a good SC judge.
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 09:49 PM by baldguy
Or UN Secretary-General!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:49 PM
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6. Toobin is a major Hill Shill, so I pay his nonsense no attention.
Obama would be wasted on the Supreme Court.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:50 PM
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7. Toobin should nominate himself to the SC.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:55 PM
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10. It's obviously just wild speculation
There's no doubt Obama would be an excellent addition to the Supreme Court, but this is going even beyond the normal stuff about Hillary being inevitable. We should hold off talking about who Hillary is going to appoint to the Supreme Court at least until an actual vote is cast.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:44 PM
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12. There's no truth to it
I'm sure no candidate has told anybody who he or she would nominate to the Supreme court. I doubt any candidate KNOWS who he or she would nominate.

It's wild-ass conjecture.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:07 PM
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13. Obama is an activist
the Supreme Court is just not a good fit for him. He wants to be out in the public eye trying to help people. You can't do that being a judge.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:09 PM
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A bit young and no judicial experience
Really, there are so many excellent democratic candidates for this job, and isn't Obama keeping his seat?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:58 PM
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17. Yes, and I don't believe Obama has ever taken a case to trial..
Research and briefs are all he has ever done.
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FlaxieB Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:09 PM
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14. Like the idea? Obama, Supreme Court? Hell No.
Same shit, different day. Barack Obama, who as an African American has the best chance of any of the past African American Presidential candidates to win the White House, is being addressed in this article as a Supreme Court replacement. Clever but not smart. Let me break it down: The nomination of Obama to the Supreme Court, if he does not win the nomination (and he will) will forever "pigeon hole" him for the rest of his life to the Supreme Court, taking away his overall effectiveness to serve the American people and the world in a much boarder capacity (Supreme Court judges only serve the U.S., not the rest of the world) In addition, this eliminates his chance of running for Prez in the next Presidential election in 2012 and beyond. This is the way to get rid of him forever. This bull shit strategy has been used by our "good ole boy" government and corporate america for decades to devalue and eliminate African Americans and other minorities from attaining their full potential for power and overall influence. Just gap the ceiling, give them a prominent position (with power), pay them well, let them have all the amenities that comes with it but DO NOT give them the big brass ring or a seat at the big table! Whites have been doing this "Catch 22 bullshit" al all levels as long as this country exists.

You're not fooling anybody, You know that Obama will take this Dem nomination and win the White House but I guess the planning had already begun to materialize in the minds of White government officials to get rid of him. What? Offer him a Supreme Court position, opposite Clarance Thomas so the government can say that there are two African Americans on the Supreme Court? In addition, if he turns it down (very hard to do) it will ruin his credibility and turn the american people against him. All the creditability he has built up will be used against him by the mass media, portrayed in a serious negative light so he won't get any support if he runs for Prez in 2012.

I have to give it to the White america, you're always thinking of way to sabotage lives and keep your precious and so called "God Given Right" for absolute power and control in this country and keeping minorities down. Just admit it, you don't want Obama as Prez because you can't stomach the thought of an African American as the leader of the free world, the most power person in the world and President of these United States, being your leader you and making life changing decisions for you, but nice try anyway.

:wow:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:27 PM
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15. Put down the koolaid and take some deep breaths
Because for one thing, you have no fucking idea what the race of the OP is.

For another, not all black folks are supporting Obama, regardless.

And last, the post read "is it true".. "should he not get the nomination".

Not, he won't get the nomination and lets send him off to the Supreme Court.

Jesus, this place gets more hysterical every fucking day.

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FlaxieB Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 07:53 AM
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18. The reality of a truth hurts, doesn't it?
This is the way the game is played. Just face it.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 08:26 AM
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19. I sure hope your 'truth' wasn't directed at me.
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FlaxieB Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:30 AM
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20. No sir, It was directed at our American system.
M intent was not to demean you in any way or be negative. The reference of diverting Obama just piss me off. I understand as well as you what's at stake and many don't like it. This is a problem with our government,corporate,business and overall social system, especially for the select few who make decisions and garnish/exert power to change, challenge and influence. This nomination for Prez is not for the largest slice of the pie, but the whole damn thing and the greedy ones who protect power don't want to share it and will do whatever is necessary to prevent this from happening (racial elements are also at play). On the surface it may look OK, especially in this time of political correctness, but many are seething and scheming. This is the sad truth in the history of America and for many, this is a grave challenge. Hopefully one day, this will all change. I'm just keep it real, trying to be just and keeping my eyes open. No harm to you.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:37 PM
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16. there are far better legal minds out there
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