Clinton Works Along With Drudge And Plays Nice With Publisher

[EV_Ares]

She plays nice with Web site publisher, former nemesis of Bill Clinton



(((Can't figure her out,reads the bible with Santorum, Tom Colbern and Ashcroft and makes legislation with Santorum)))

Who exactly is she?


By Jim Rutenberg

WASHINGTON - As Senator Barack Obama prepared to give a major speech on Iraq one morning a few weeks ago, a flashing red-siren alert went up on the Drudge Report Web site. It read, “Queen of the Quarter: Hillary Crushes Obama in Surprise Fund-Raising Surge,” and, “$27 Million, Sources Tell Drudge Report.”

Within minutes, the Drudge site had injected Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s fund-raising success into the day’s political news on the Internet and cable television. It did not halt coverage of Mr. Obama’s speech or his criticism of her vote to authorize the war in 2002, but along the front lines of the campaign — the hourly, intensely fought effort to capture the news cycle or deny ownership of it to the other side — it was a telling assault.

Mrs. Clinton’s aides declined to discuss how the Drudge Report got access to her latest fund-raising figures nearly 20 minutes before the official announcement went to supporters. But it was a prime example of a development that has surprised much of the political world: Mrs. Clinton is learning to play nice with the Drudge Report and the powerful, elusive and conservative-leaning man behind it.

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[Evergreen Emerald]

1. keep your friends close and your enemies closer

She is one smart cookie that one!

[wyldwolf]

2. "Who exactly is she?" My answer, among many you'll get

The Senator from New York seeking the Democratic nomination for president, a politically savvy individual who knows what it takes to win, who (in this instance) knows that old saying "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" is gold.

[mod mom]

3. Republicans want HRC as the candidate because it's their only way to steal another

election and have an excuse (she was too devisive for independents and the anti-war left didn't come out for her).

[cosmik debris]

11. Don't forget

She is also the neocons best fund raiser. The closer she gets to the nomination, the more money they will raise.

[durrrty libby]

27. Do broken records ever get sick of themselves?

[mod mom]

32. I want a Democrat who works for the people in the whitehouse NOT another stolen election

with an alibi.

[MonkeyFunk]

4. awww

Clinton yet again proves she's the savviest campaigner of the field.

I'm sure the other candidates have drudge's phone number, too. This fake outrage is hysterical.

[EV_Ares]

5. Does that make Rudy a savy campaigner as well; Hillary works

on legislation the conservatives like and Rudy does things the liberals like.

[MonkeyFunk]

7. no

Rudy's a pretty lousy campaigner.

Try to keep the discussion to the topic at hand. If you want to argue that Clinton is a republican, there's plenty of other threads discussing that. You can find them sniffing around for the bullshit.

[EV_Ares]

9. The discussion is staying at hand. Nobody is arguing that

Clinton is a republican, you said that. If you can't handle a question, move on. You said Hillary is a savy campaigner and I just asked if that makes Rudy a savy campaigner. All of a sudden for some it is ok for her to work in the camps as he does. He is pro womens rights, gay rights, has done other legislation as she is working with and passed legislation with Santorum. Don't be so sensitive.

[MonkeyFunk]

10. again

we're not discussing legislation here. Well, YOU are, but I don't know why.

What exactly is your objection to Clinton using Drudge to get her story out (and 20 minutes before the wires got it, according to the article). Of course, this presumes Clinton DID do it - the article provides no support for that claim.

[EV_Ares]

12. OK don't mention the word legislation; it just shows for those such

as yourself all of a sudden this sort of thing makes her a "savy" campaigner. The same can be said of Rudy as can be said of Hillary.

I see others are seeing the same, didn't know this was a dupe, go to the other thread on it. Some good comments there.

Also, was that savy Rupert Murdoch raising money for her?

[MonkeyFunk]

16. You just can't stay on topic, can you?

It sounds like you're saying that giuliani used Drudge, and you're wondering if I think that makes him a savvy campaigner.

My answer, above, is that no I don't think he's a savvy campaigner - he's made some huge mistakes. Clinton has not.

Using Drudge to her advantage alone does not make her a savvy campaigner. But, in combination with everything else, it demonstrates that she IS a savvy campaigner.

And yes, if she can get $$ out of Rupert Murdoch, that's pretty savvy, too. Lots of politicians of both parties do it.

[EV_Ares]

18. Yeah, I am on topic, evidently it just doesn't matter to you, you are

just going to get upset at anyone questioning anything about her. No I did not say he used Drudge, I think most common sense people know that. You just ignore the fact that he can do the same thing from his perspective that she is doing from hers and you say hers is savy campaigning and he is not to be trusted. Hey thats ok, just a question and thats ok, you have your point of view on it which is fine. Others have theirs and see it ias it is or they see it.

OK for her to take a lot of money from Rupert; as we say on here he doesn't give his money away for nothing. But that is ok in this case, it is just "savy" campaigning. No ties attached.

[MonkeyFunk]

21. Let me explain

this is a thread about a very narrow issue: The use of the website Drudgereport to advance a campaign's agenda.

When you start talking about Murdoch and Santorum and Giuliani, it makes you sound like a raving, frothing rabid Clinton-hater.

[EV_Ares]

39. And your raving attacks for no other reason than you just do not

want to have any questions about Hillary and you do not like anyone who has information that you do not feel like it puts her in a good light. Sorry about that but people have a right to question things and to be able to attempt to make decisions on someone.

Why don't you try in an adult manner and intelligent way such as one other here explain something instead of just attacking someone and trying to shut down something you don't like.

[MonkeyFunk]

40. I'm trying to discuss the topic

in the OP.

If you want to start another thread about "500 reasons I don't like Clinton" knock yourself out.

[EV_Ares]

42. Yeah, sure you are. Thats ok, I think the point has been made and

most people can make a intelligent decision and can stand up to attacks. I think you would do better if you think she is the best candidate to do that (discuss) inform, rather than try to shut down anything you feel is negative. Regardless, good luck and thanks for all the good postive informative information on Hillary.

[John Q. Citizen]

49. Lot's of politicians from both parties are pretty slimy, too.

[rodeodance]

6. Ha----more like she knows how to USE Drudge to her advantage. Good move on the

part of the campaign

[rodeodance]

8. see Dupe DU thread in Greatest:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3631213

[flpoljunkie]

13. As Jean Harlow, the great American actress and original Blonde Bombshell, once said...

"When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas."

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/when-you-lie-down-with-dogs-you-get-up-with-fleas/533950.html

[wyldwolf]

25. what have you got against Matt Drudge?

[zulchzulu]

14. Trust Matt Drudge at your own peril

It's like inviting a starving pit bull in heat over to see your new poodle puppy.

Awww, the pit bull is licking the.... ahhhhh!!!!!

[EV_Ares]

15. LOL, yeah, Matt Drudge, what can you say. I really would like to

know who this lady is but you just ask the question and her supporters get all up tight about it.

I just find it strange Rupert Murdoch holding a fund raiser for her at his home, she is all of a sudden doing these things with Drudge, passes legislation with Santorum. Now all of a sudden this is all savy campaigning but someone like Rudy doing the same thing on the other side, you are not to trust him for it.

[MonkeyFunk]

17. What is the legislation she passed with Santorum?

Republicans and Democrats work together all the time. Just trying to smear her by saying she passed legislation with Santorum doesn't tell us anything. WHAT was the legislation?

Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch are very good friends. Does that mean Kennedy's a stealth-wingnut?

[EV_Ares]

20. No problem, will get it for you. Was posted on here the other day

from out of Mother Jones. The article about her reading the bible with him, Ashcroft, Tom Colbern and how she ended up working with him on legislation. I will find it and post the link for you.

[MonkeyFunk]

23. Nah, don't bother

it was a rhetorical question. I don't care.

My point was that just saying she worked with santorum on something isn't a valuable claim. It's meant to make her look bad, without actually saying anything.

If you find the legislation offensive, say so. But a silly smear-by-association attempt just makes you look like a rabid hater, and not an effective debater.

[EV_Ares]

24. No, I have found it and will post it. You are the one that looks like

a rabid hater, not an effective debater, you have exploded at any question.

[MonkeyFunk]

26. I didn't explode at all.

I just tried to keep you on topic.

Throwing out every possible reason you dislike Clinton is just a scattershot approach to debate, and off-topic for this thread.

Can't you tell us what you find so offensive about the claims made in THIS article without dragging in Giuliani, Santorum or Murdoch?

[EV_Ares]

31. First of all I don't totally dislike her, just have questions and will

probably, no if she is the Dem nominee, will vote for her. You know I wasn't throwing out every possible thing it is just a pattern with her and they are true things she is doing.

I think your problem is they are just building up. However, if any of it offended you, I apologize but do feel no need to be so sensitive to the issue. Not trying to attack her just have questions about her.

Also, the legislation is that of conservative morality, she voted on the flag burning legislation with Republican Senator Bob Bennet of Utah, Brownback and Santorum on video games and other legislation that the article said redifined social justice issues in terms of conservative morality. I will post it for you.

[MonkeyFunk]

33. LOL

now flag-burning and videogames. You're funny.

[EV_Ares]

34. LOL, so what is your message or question. eom

[MonkeyFunk]

35. My message

is if you wanted to start a thread called "all the reasons I don't like Hillary" you should've entitled it that.

And you know the flag-burning bill was an attempt to stave off a constitutional amendment, which she opposed, right?

And she didn't advocate government censorship of videogames. You know that, right?

Again, you're throwing out names and buzzwords in an attempt to smear her without providing any real information or context. It's stupid.

[EV_Ares]

36. What is stupid is your attitude. I guess you could add all of those

reasons for reasons to question who she is. Sorry if that irritates you. Your attitude unfortunately does nothing to add support to her cause. Instead of answering questions, you just attack anybody that asks a question, sort of like the freepers do. Not calling you one, but you are using their method.

Here, read the Mother Jones article on Hillary and her corroboration with Inhofe, Santorum, Ashcroft, et. Make your own decision instead of attacking.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

[MonkeyFunk]

41. OK

you have a great day. You just want to rant about a hundred different things. Knock yourself out.

Please.

[EV_Ares]

43. You have a great day yourself. Haven't seen anyone ranting here

except yourself. Hmmm, didn't know there were a hundred different things about Hillary to beware of. Oh well.

[Hawkowl]

44. Work together?!?!

What century are you living in? Rethugs and Dems working together to stop children's health care? Fund contractors? Derail investigations and sit on impeachment? Bipartisanship is rapidly becoming a fossilized fairy tale. And Clinton has morphed her identity into a simply amoral, corporate bought, spineless, politician.

[cuke]

45. Maybe you should tell that to Obama

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3632812

[CTyankee]

19. This may be a smart move by Hillary. Let's hope that she is

stringing him along and will turn the tables on the MSM after elected.

But I am still of two minds about her candidacy. I can see why this move upsets so many liberals. What I am hoping is that she decided to outmaneuver the guy to her own advantage. Otherwise, 08 is going to be a reprise of 04 all over again: swiftboating, smearing, picking up the lead and letting the rw shows just overwhelm the public's consciousness of what is going on.

We don't really want that. Maybe HRC has found a brilliant way to screw Drudge and his entire crew...

[EV_Ares]

22. Hey thanks for your insight and questions. That is the same thing

I am wondering. Some get extremely upset about posting any question on her. If she could turn the tables on the MSM, that would be great, string them along, use them to your advantage.

[Colobo]

30. Fuck Drudge and his ilk.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

28. Sellout, HIllary is all about Hillary and fuck the working class (NAFTA)

We may lose both houses with her heading a disaster ticket. Her coronation as Democratic candidate will be a textbook example of why our party repeatedly snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.

[EV_Ares]

37. The Mother Jones article:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

[zulchzulu]

29. Here's what you get with trusting Drudge on the same day he's in NYT

I'm not saying to go there, but here are some headlines. Looks like he's her pal... :crazy:

As Fires Rage, Rob Reiner Sings For Clinton...

HILLARY CENTER STAGE -- AT REPUBLICAN DEBATE...

[Forkboy]

38. The ends justify the means.

:puke:

[cuke]

46. That's politics

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3632812

[Forkboy]

47. See my response in that thread.

Obama doing it too doesn't make it ok, it just makes BOTH of them wrong.

[cuke]

50. I saw it

They ALL do it. In 04, DK plotted with Edwards and Nader took money from repukes

[Forkboy]

51. Edited because I see the point you're trying to make.

I was wondering what this had to with using Drudge, but can see you're expounding on the "end justifies the means" idea that I put forth.

So I'll comment on the two examples you mention.

What DK and Edwards did isn't anything wrong (I like the use of the word "plotted" though) so the means were ok.

Nader taking money from repubs though, is an excellent example of what I'm talking about, however.In that case the means were wrong.

[cuke]

52. They all use each other

They all do what's in their self-interest to do. There are no angels running for president.

[Forkboy]

53. You might have responded before I edited my original reply.

I was confused for a minute and changed my post when I figured out the point you were making.My apologies for that.

You're right...too many do what's in THEIR self-interest.That's part of the problem.

There are no angels running for president.

Of course not, but that doesn't mean they should dance with the devil either. ;)

[librechik]

48. lie down with dogs, get up with fleas--and the buzz they generate.

whatever!