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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:28 PM Original message |
And so it begins: New PAC to attack Hillary from the Left |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. Stupid. I'm an Obama supporter--how about putting the money and |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. ahhhh politico |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. Edwards just lost my support |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. He probably never had it |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Deleted sub-thread |
Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. Independent of any campaign |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Oh it will be "independent". |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
89. ""We have no plans right now to back any particular candidate," Hurowitz said." |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. "Independent of any campaign" - well, hell hath no fury like... |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
9. John Edwards would destroy this party to serve his vanity... what else is new? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Oh come on, Edwards isnt' responsible for what his supporters do. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Was that what you were saying about Swiftboat Veterans for Truth? I'll guess no. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Did I say something about SBVT recently? |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. People involved with a campaign leave the campaign to set up an 'independent' hit organization |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Yes, but--the whole point of swiftboating is to make things up that aren't true |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. The point is that we all know SBVT was not really independent, so why |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
73. It's not about agreeing with the message, it's about fact vs. fiction. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. I agree |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. This type of thing was considered treason by most at DU |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Ding! Ding! We have a winner |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Thus the yellow dog? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Hell yeah! |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. This is too good to be true... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. Too bad they can't find someone to support instead. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Hi Kitten. No need for concern |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. IT'S AN ONLINE POLL??? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Did you see the DU poll about coattails? |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I had no idea it was an online poll |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. It's a serious online poll... not like a CNN what do you think poll, but |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Thanks for the explanation |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:44 AM Response to Reply #34 |
87. Thanks for the explanation |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Well its Zogby Interactive, diffferent from a regular internet poll. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I suppose the thought of more GOP governance by the seat of their pants - |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Considering your source for those numbers, I'm not one bit worried. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
67. They're attacking Obama, too |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Leaving no stone unturned for their guy. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Edwards? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Yep |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. Is this better or worse than sourcing from FOX? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. I've yet to see any thing more than urban legends about Politico |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. There are some excellent fact, filled posts |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. Pedigree is les important than substance |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
23. We have plenty of candidates that are better on the issues than Hillary |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
27. Here's an article by this group's founder, Glenn Hurowitz, doing some Edwards lovin' |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Wait, you mean Edwards website has a link to fundraise for an "independent" 527? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. I don't know, but I hope it is. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I don't think si |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Ah, too bad |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. More bad news: Edwards isn't Obama |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Sad but true |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. It says they're not an independant 527 |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. All these fundraising brackets confuse the shit out of me. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Heck if I know |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. Where's WesDem, |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I hope the Clinton camp tracks this shit down. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. This is good news for Hillary... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
33. Desperate People Do Desperate Things |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
43. Seems like a waste of useful energy that could be directed elsewhere. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
45. "I'm definitely not a Hillary hater — " |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
46. I think the contributions to Edwards are interesting |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
48. Well, I don't really like this |
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Flarney (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
49. Unless they lie, mislead or smear, what's the problem? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. The candidates are free to and capable of, criticizing their competition |
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Flarney (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Maybe I'm being niave here, but is it possible that this is being done independently |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. I agree with reserving judgment until they actually do something |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. That's reasonable |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
74. Very Dangerous slippery slope |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
54. Edwards goes Swiftboating. n/t |
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Flarney (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. My bias is on my sleeve here, but isn't that a little bit of a knee-jerk response? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Look at the website--nice smiling picture of |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. It's not "Swift Boating" until they lie |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
56. This will probably backfire on them and raise Hillary's support. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
60. awesome!!! |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. You think the repukes are "true patriots for america"? |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
64. Probably Freepers under cover |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
65. There's a difference between stopping her and attacking her |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
70. FOLLOW THE MONEY is all I gotta say. n/t |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. I wouldn't be surprised to see that this is another "Nader like" funded effort |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Just like Lieberman wasnt getting all of his money from DLCers- some came from other conservatives. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
72. If Hillary is tough enough to beat the Republicans in '08, then she can handle this. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. Again, I gotta agree with you |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
78. Who's side are they on? How assinine, why don't they just go form another Party? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. This is the primary, not the general election. Conservative DEMS fight hard in primaries too. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Right or Left, I don't like front groups in politics that spring up suddenly... |
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DesEtoiles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
83. This will only make her appear more moderate to the swing |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
85. I'm so sick of this shit! |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
86. give me a break. And so it begins??? She has gotten only favorable press for a year! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:04 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Obviously you don't know what a PAC is |
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