Lets face the fact, the Republican and the Democratic politicians messed up

[kster]

they all know it, but they are backed in to a corner, the Neocons have infiltrated their secret vote counting machine's and now the mostly honest R's and D's are in trouble, they themselves enjoyed controlling the vote count and the will of the people for years, but now they can't figure out how to get out of it because they, themselves where complicit in the scam.

They have to walk in lockstep with the Neocons because the Neocons now know their secret vote counting scam and are using it against them.

How do we get the mostly honest R and D politicians out of this jam?

[CK_John]

1. A mob is guilty as a whole. There are no good R's. n/t

[kster]

3. I won't argue with you, but if the R and D politicians where

getting away with counting our ballots in secret for years, and come to find that THE Neocons could CRACK their code and take over the country with it, wouldn't we be better off telling the mostly honest D and R politicians, that if they come forward with the truth that we will not look back, then we can take these Neocons out with help from within.

[CK_John]

4. How dare you mix the D's with your R's. n/t

[kster]

5. Do the Democratic and Republican politicians

REMAIN SILENT when it comes to We the People seeing the votes being counted?

[CK_John]

7. Local officials of each party in over 50,000 polling places count the vote. To fix the count

would impossible on a grand scale. Get involved with your local election board and find out, or are you decision challenged and can not pick a party, part of the "no difference between them cadre".

[kster]

2. self delete

[StClone]

6. Dem mistakes but why are they held as culpable?

When it is pretty apparent where this recent extreme toxic graft came from -- the Conservatives. Rep built the Tower of Babel from the ground up since Nixon's fall. Stealthy moneyed backers like Scaife, the Koch, the Bradleys, Princes and their ilk have trained the media to spew it's Conservative pathology. We now have no Fourth Estate, a pallid Constitution, a dysfunctional SCOTUS, a drained Military and a dying U.S. Dollar and debt as far as the eye can see. Voting, both fraudulent and earnest, have gotten Republicans in power gleefully usurped by the a monastically-minded executive. Dems played naive and fair while the Rs stole the show and ran it into Hell.