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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:44 AM
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It's about Selective Outrage not Fake Outrage. Many DU'ers can't seem to grasp that simple point.
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 08:49 AM by cryingshame
Disclaimer- I don't particularly care for Hillary or Obama in terms of the '08 campaign. Neither would hold the war criminals accountable, IMO.

My point?

After finding out McClurkin makes a career out of spouting homophobic opinions that influenced others, I saw his inclusion on top bill at Obama's event offensive. There are enough gospel singers that could be hired without such in-your-face baggage.

However, when some of us mention Hillary and other Democrats getting public support from other prominent black homophobes it's not-
"Hillary does it to" or trying to apologize for Obama.

It's to make the point that there are some serious cases of selective outrage going on.

Someone mentioned Hillary's Prayer Meetings etc etc.

While DU's on the subject of Dems appearing with black homophobes, you'd think those people who're so pissed off at Obama would spread the 'joy' to Hillary's Prayer Meetings.

It's the SAME ISSUE as Obama/McGlurkin.

And judging from the number of posts some DU'ers are devoting to the Obama incident, they SHOULD be able to diversify, so to speak.

Of course, after hauling Obama AND Hillary both to the woodshed for pandering to black homophobes we might actually see some real, honest discussions on the issue.

But what might happen if black homophobes including prominent ministers and public ministers were marginalized by Democrat?

Those leaders, who otherwise tend to support the Left on issues, might be even more inclined to suck at the GOP tit in order to try and remain politically relevant.

At the end of the day, How are you going to enlighten people who haven't evolved when it comes to civil rights extending to gays?

Segregating yourselves from such people or working with them on things you agree on and ultimately fostering a sense of shared community and familiarity?

Politics isn't pretty and makes for strange bedfellows.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:47 AM
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1. sorry, i'd Like to respond but
i'm on the other Line with the reverend eugene rivers. he's heLping me work through my disease.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:52 AM
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2. So you have nothing to contribute except your need to get validation from DU'ers by posting a pix
of yourself at an Obama event.

No worthwhile suggestions on how to SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

Typical.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:02 AM
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7. no i just posted a seperate thread
just for you.

i Love you.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:52 AM
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3. I don't know about "in your face" I never heard of McClurkin.
Big deal.........
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:53 AM
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4. Other people have heard of him. He makes a thing out of spreading his 'opinions' in public.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:56 AM
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5. Good post. Selective outrage is the issue. Anybody who is actually personally concerned with
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 08:59 AM by John Q. Citizen
with the issue (and many are) would vote for Kucinich anyway, because he's the only candidate to endorse the idea of gay marriage.

All the rest dance around the issue with stuff like civil unions, etc.

Don't ask don't tell? Kucinich would order the military to flat out quit discriminating based on sexual orientation. Period.

While the partisans of the best funded candidates all tip toe around various shades of "go slow" only Kucinich says civil rights are civil rights and everyone is equally deserving.
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:05 AM
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8. Kucinich is the only candidate who is right on every issue. I wish
he hadn't already been deemed un-electable by whatever corporation or cabal decides these things for us.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:43 AM
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14. Frankly, I'm surprised so many are so willing to buy into what is patently an irrational
claim. Kucinich is obviously electable since he's been elected many times. More times than Hillary, more times than Edwards, and more times than Obama.

I think it shows just how susceptible people are to propaganda, even those who believe that propaganda only effects people who vote Republican.

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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:00 AM
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6. I'm hoping Obama usues the event to address the un-Christian
intolerance issue head on. It's a unique opportunity, and being the gifted orator that he is, he just might open some fundie eyes. The whole thing has been pre-judged and condemned already here at DU. Been a whole lot of judgemental condemnation in pretty much every thread on every subject lately. Thanks for your thoughtful post.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:13 AM
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9. I agree with you, it's been very selective n/t
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:30 AM
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10. and I mentioned Hillary's prayer breakfast seveal times
both when it occured and now. Evidently you don't get that.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:32 AM
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11. cryingshame doesn't care. she is just spinning for Obama.
it's not about the actual issue being discussed.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:42 AM
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13. You are in a very small minority n/t
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:34 AM
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12. Exactly. That's what's really going on here.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:43 AM
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15. OK, take 'em to the woodshed.


But which D candidates are stronger in this regard?

I'm raising the question in several posts, because it seems to be temporarily forgotten.
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