Obama's " mistake"

[MNDemNY]

If, as many Obama supporters here say, it was just an oversight that he booked the now famous "ex-Homosexual" for his tour, Why does he stand by this "mistake" or "oversight"??Why continue down what has now become a wrong turn? Why stick with such a bad position?
ANYONE?????

[nightrider767]

1. Because once that issue is resolved

A new issue one will be found to attack him on?

It's not going to end.

And that's too bad.

[MNDemNY]

3. Sorry, but that's the only issue I have with him.

Not that he "inadvertently" signed him, but that even now he won't back off. IMO, that shows a lack of judgment. Unless this has been calculated, then that is another story.

[nightrider767]

15. Hate to say it, because it's been over said

But don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

For him or or any other candidate, you either believe in them as a person or your don't. Short of that we all make mistakes. It's still the same Borak.

[MNDemNY]

19. This "mistake" is still easily corrected. Yet, he apparently chooses not ot.

[Bluebear]

6. Yes, this was all about "attacking him". The old blame the victim schtick.

[sniffa]

11. MY FUCKING GOD!!!!

HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DOES IT HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED TO THESE PEOPLE!!!?

does have it to be dumbed down even more? i thought peopLe here were at Least of beLow average inteLLigence.

[bicentennial_baby]

17. ...

:spray:

good one.

[MethuenProgressive]

16. Question really is: Why does McClurkin support Obama?

Do the homophobic bigots know something we don't?

[MNDemNY]

18. That is a fear.

[BenDavid]

2. Obama's first mistake was entering

this campaign. For some unknown reason or maybe he listened to Bob Strum and got into this race thinking he would roll over all the other candidates.....

Shelia Jackson Lee said it best on Bill Maher last Friday night:Jackson-Lee said to Bill Maher that the reason the blacks of this country were supporting Hillary so overwhelmingly over Obama was because they wanted to get things done. She said Obama is a good candidate, as he is, but she said they wanted someone who could get the things they want done for civil rights, for the health insurance and all the other things and Hillary was they one who could do it the best.

Of course Chris(the screamer Mathews) had to pan Hillary and say she wouldn't be anywhere if it wasn't for Bill. But Jackson-Lee cut him off and said that Hillary was smart intelligent and could do things on her own. The mentioned how she had raised Chelsa and how she turned out.

[MNDemNY]

4. I don't begrudge him on his campaign,

only his apparent lack of good sense to dump this load.

[ihelpu2see]

7. Hillary definitely has the corp. base, her vote on the Kyle amendment is

tough baggage as well as the 2002 IWR... but more telling is her soft support for Chris Dodd and his stance on the fisa bill

And I agree that this might "MIGHT" be a mis-step by Obama but as the other posts have noted, the Hillary machine will find some thing else or would have found something to be tripe about.

[Dawgs]

9. Whatever!!

Obama would be the frontrunner if Bill's wife wasn't in the race.

You can't say that about any other candidate.

And, "the blacks" are overwhelmingly supporting Hillary because she's married to Bill. Anyone that doesn't know this has never talked to a black person about it.

[MNDemNY]

12. What is your point?

[Dawgs]

5. I'm an Obama supporter that has always stated it was a mistake.

I've seen many others that have said the same thing. It seems like you are picking out only a few of us to attack us all.

Obama will fight for GLBT rights as much as any other candidate. I'm disappointed in how this was handled. He should have been dropped. I still support Obama.

[MNDemNY]

8. I'm not attacking anyone. Is his apparent obstinacy not deepening the mistake?

[MNDemNY]

10. Have you contacted your candidate as to your desire that he drop the act from the tour?

[Dawgs]

13. Of course. Many of us have. That doesn't change the fact that we still support him.

[MNDemNY]

14. Do you have any insight as to why Obama has not dropped this hot potato?

And is it reasonable for one to infer from his non-action that he has made a conscious decision?

[hijinx87]

20. this is a minor campaign misstep. nothing more.

and the MSM is already getting bored with it. you can always count
on their severe case of ADD to drop this week's silly obsession with
a different one next week.

there is no way in hell obama is the slightest bit homophobic. the
only real damage here is that his message got lost in the static for
a few days. the only place that this tempest in a teapot is still
brewing is on progressive blogs and discussion forums, where we just
can't seem to get past it.

[sniffa]

21. apoLogist #432? you're up next

[hijinx87]

22. whatever.

this is an absolute non-issue among those of us that live outside
of the matrix.

the thought that barack obama is a homophobe is simply and flatly
absurd on it's face. and if he runs around apologizing every time
he commits some minor infraction against the sensibilities of some
group of people or other, you can bet the farm that he will be portrayed
as weak by the rethugs in the not-unlikely-event that he wins the nomination.
"Barack Obama can't stand up to the gay rights lobby, how will he ever stand
up to Osama bin Laden". Yes, that is a pile of shit, but they won't hesitate
for a second to use it. and it will resonate with swing voters that can't
separate the war on terror from the war in iraq.

it was a minor misstep. the only way he could make it worse is to fall on
his sword over it.

and keep in mind this is a hillaryite saying this . . . .

[ronnykmarshall]

25. ...

:spray:

[NMMNG]

23. Not just one

All of them. I don't buy that all of them were mistakes/accidents. It's just not feasible.

[ieoeja]

24. If he disinvites the man, Obama's snub of evangelicals will be the big story.

And one that dwarfs this one.

I have defended Obama against all the other faux outrages perpetrated by supporters of other candidates. But this time the campaign *did* make a mistake.

The campaign saw a Grammy winning entertainer with crossover appeal. A pastor whose church is attended by many famous figures. A singer who performed before two ex-presidents, including Bill Clinton.

I would guess the campaign figured that last was all the vetting they needed. It doesn't help that in the first dozen articles I found online concerning this man, the ex-gay message was buried towards the end of the articles in a single paragraph or two.

So they screwed up. And now they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Dumping him is definitely the correct and moral thing to do. Politically it would be disastrous. But sometimes you have to put morality above politics. Obama's failure to do the right thing here is a big mark against him in my book.

There is ONE thing Obama could do. Obama should talk to the man. The pastor seems to be either a gay man in denial suffering from religious inspired guilt, or a straight man who, for various reasons, participated in gay sex for a time before realizing his true orientation then erroneously decided that his experience applies to everyone else. Maybe Obama could educate the man and get him to recant.

Not likely. But it is the only advice I could give him. If the man does not recant after Obama speaks to him, then that would at least give Obama something to fall back on when he dumps the man. "I thought I could explain to him how much his message hurts so many people. But after lengthy discussions ... while we still have faith in the same God ... I love God, God loves me, but we're a dysfunctional family ... blah, blah, blah."

Okay, my imagination failed me there. A better writer than me -- or at least a religious one -- might be able to come up with something.

[FlaxieB]

26. What mistake? Supporting Gay Rights?

Isn't that what you want in a Prez? Someone who is not influenced by what critics say. Someone who will not allow his critics, special interests to interfere with his Presidential decisions? Unlike George Bush? The purpose of this event is two fold: to get religious people to come together and support him in his run for Prez. The detractors here on DU have made this an issue that has absolutely no grounds and to be frank, outright stupid and asinine.

This gathering is about bringing people together, understanding that if different groups work together we can make a change in this country for the better. Besides, the religious groups have no problem with McClurkin performing and many gays don't have a problem either. This is just a problem manufactured by DU bloggers and some gay activists outside of DU. Many gay people have stated that Donnie McClurkin's views are not Obama's views. Obama has released a statement regarding that fact. If this is such a big deal and it pains you critics so much, organize and have a march on Washington. Isn't that what groups who need to vent do?