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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:43 PM
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Giuliani Hits Back at Biden (and Biden hits back at Giuliani!)
After Senator Joseph R. Biden’s line during the Democratic debate tonight that a sentence for Rudolph W. Giuliani consists of a noun, a verb, and 9/11, Mr. Giuliani’s communications director, Katie Levinson, responded with this statement:

As the pundits work to figure out who won the debate tonight, its pretty clear Rudy Giuliani was the real winner. It is increasingly apparent Rudy is the one the Democrats are most worried about running against in the general election.

Senator Biden’s comments were of particular interest. The good senator is quite correct that there are many differences between Rudy and him. For starters, Rudy rarely reads prepared speeches and when he does he isn’t prone to ripping off the text from others. And, Senator Biden certainly falls in to the bucket of those on the stage tonight who have never had executive experience and have never run anything. Wait, I take that back, Senator Biden has never run anything but his mouth.

Such a desperate attack from Senator Biden is to be expected considering I — Katie Levinson — have a better chance of becoming President than he does.

Update | 11:30 p.m. The Biden campaign responded to the Giuliani campaign’s response:

“We are well aware that former Mayor Giuliani will attempt to drag this race into the mud where the Republicans like to wage their campaigns. It’s pretty obvious that they can’t defend themselves on the real charge that Mr. Giuliani walked away from the cops and firefighters who were waiting for the 9/11 Commission to be enacted and the Biden crime bill to be restored.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/giuliani-hits-back-at-biden/
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:45 PM
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1. yeah rudy has more divorces and looks better in drag too nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:47 PM
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2. I soooo hope Rudy and his gang keep bringing this up!
:evilgrin:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:48 PM
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6. Why? Really - I don't understand your point. Thanks. nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:53 PM
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10. Because it will backfire on them big time, imo anyways.
Biden's response to the dingleberry speaking for Rudy was just a shot across the bow of what we can slam him with.Taking Rudy down will be a true pleasure to watch (though that applies to all the repubs).
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:25 PM
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16. I agree with both your statements, although I think I'd like to see the battle
with Rudy at the receiving end. Meat.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:47 PM
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3. the fact that Ghoul's campaign felt the needed to respond says it all
because it's just so fucking true. even though Biden told it in a joking way.

good for Biden.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:08 AM
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36. it sure does. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:47 PM
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4. Wow. I didn't read this until after I posted it. Those are some LOW BLOWS
from Giuliani's camp! And Biden gave it right back!

I'd love to see them go at it together.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:47 PM
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5. He should have mentioned how Rudy gave up on hand search for remains after GOLD was found.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:50 PM
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7. "A noun, a verb, and 9/11."
That little quip has staying power. Good for Joe!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:02 PM
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12. I just posted the video of it. nt
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:36 AM
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28. Giuliani will forever be branded & haunted by that phrase, thanks to Biden
You can bet anything that even Gullini's Republican primary opponents loved that one and were rolling all over their livng room floors.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:41 AM
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30. True
And nice.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:51 PM
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8. Republicans can't get out of the gutter
Biden talks policy, Republicans always have to resort to the personal smear.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:53 PM
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9. If there was a real fight between Rudy and Joe, ALL my $$ is on Joe!
I gotta say, Joe hit it right on when he said Rudy has a noun, and adjective, and 911 in every sentence! There's no way Rudy can even try to defend THAT! I realize DU doesn't have many Biden supporters, but I'm one of the few, and in every debate, Joe shows everyone why I am!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:03 PM
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14. DU has more and more Biden supporters every day, it seems. Regardless
of who anyone supports, that comment described RG to a "T". !


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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:24 PM
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15. Well, I hope that's an indication of the rest of the country!
Not only do I think Joe could beat the s*it out of any Pub they decided to run, I think he would be the BEST President for America...ALL OF US!!!!!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:35 PM
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18. That's how I feel, too. I would just sleep better knowing Biden was in the WH. nt
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:59 PM
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11. Adults shouldn't argue with children...
but since the "child" was a 'thug, Biden gets a pass on this one. ;)
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:03 PM
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13. Poor Rudy.
Doesn't have a legit comeback. :)
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:13 AM
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24. Which means he should have just shut up!
But no, he had to come back, which just reinforced a great Biden line that now will be more memorable.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:30 PM
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17. Biden is showing that if he gets the nomination - he will not take their shit.
And he wont even miss a beat before responding and sticking t to them.

Go Joe!
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:54 PM
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19. that was a classic line
And delivered with very good timing I might add.
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kad7777 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:04 AM
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20. Seriously, is there anyone better than Joe Biden?
I'm not going into all the whys, I'm just going to enjoy Joe's performance tonight. Outstanding!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUC8LeZ1hM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtGCaqOdIJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HcXkLbRIWw


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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:02 AM
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21. Seriously? No.
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:07 AM
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22. NOPE
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:53 AM
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35. No one.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:23 AM
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23. fuck ghouliani, he is about as irrelevant as bushler.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:17 AM
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25. This is absolutely priceless
I hope we see the day when Giuliani has to debate Biden.
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kad7777 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:26 AM
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26. Biden is the best America has
Honest, experienced, knowledgeable, integrity, intelligent, expert in foreign policy, and dare I say...Presidential. AND, he can pull down Republican votes!!
Go get'm Joe!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUC8LeZ1hM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtGCaqOdIJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HcXkLbRIWw





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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:32 AM
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27. Biden is the man
That was a classic line. Rudy can't handle Biden. I would love to see him debate Rudy.

He is the best candidate. I have been a Biden supporter for a long time. He is what our country needs now. He's tough, smart and backs up his words with action.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:39 AM
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29. Thanks Rudy!
The fact that they felt the need to respond + the INCREDIBLE NASTINESS of the response will keep this in he news a while longer. Which is a good thing.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:46 AM
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31. I'll say one thing about Rudy and that is he always wears clean
panties. At least that's what Bernard Kerik sez.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:12 AM
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38. I am really surprised these haven't hit the front pages yet -- maybe if he gets
the nomination. I never saw these before I came on DU and I bet a great number of American people haven't either.

I laugh whenever I see that photo - thanks!! :7
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:41 AM
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32. Kicking for Joe. There will be no swiftboating on HIS watch.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:49 AM
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33. Seems to me that, according to Giuliani, Biden hasn't made a mistake
in the last 20 years. How does Rudy measure up?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:53 AM
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34. ^ 5! ZING!
That's our Debi!
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demommom Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:56 PM
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42. Good one, Debi!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:09 AM
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37. I thought that it was funny that the comment from the Giuliani camp seemed
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 11:10 AM by gateley
a little pissed off - like an angry staffer just sat down and banged it out without the usual second reading to make sure it was "okay",. They could have stated those same digs a little more "politely", but it's almost as though they were just too mad to care! I think that's hysterical!!

I was really pleased with Biden's response - and the alacrity with which it was dispensed. The zings were on the IMPORTANT issue - one on which Rudy is running his campaign, but subtle and classy in its delivery.

I just find the whole exchange highly amusing!

Edit - spelling
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:13 PM
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40. Biden said so much with just one line
The video at YouTube has now been view over 11,000 times. No expensive 30 second commercial will have nearly the impact and it was FREE. Meanwhile, it will be shown on all the news shows.

Also I liked the way he equated the Iran resolution to the increase in gas prices, something most people probably weren't aware of.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:15 AM
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39. That is one of the most unprofessional and embarrassing...
"Campaign statements" I have ever read.

All it lacks is: "I know you are but what am I?"

Jesus.

Please God, give us Rudy.



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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:29 PM
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41. Don't forget the "I am rubber and you're glue..."
I think they're saving that for the next debate :P
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demommom Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:16 PM
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43. kick
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:23 PM
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44. K&R
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:36 PM
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45. Joe understands the battle at hand.
When you are hit you have to hit back harder!

:kick:
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