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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:45 PM
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Nader sues the Democratic party.

Ralph Nader Sues Democratic Party
Oct 30 04:38 PM US/Eastern
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8SJPDKG1&show_article=1

WASHINGTON (AP) - Consumer advocate and 2004 independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader sued the Democratic Party on Tuesday, contending officials conspired to keep him from taking votes away from nominee John Kerry.

Nader's lawsuit, filed in District of Columbia Superior Court, also named as co-defendants Kerry's campaign, the Service Employees International Union and several so-called 527 organizations such as America Coming Together, which were created to promote voter turnout on behalf of the Democratic ticket.
The lawsuit also alleges that the Democratic National Committee conspired to force Nader off the ballot in several states.

"The Democratic Party is going after anyone who presents a credible challenge to their monopoly over their perceived voters," Nader said in a statement. "This lawsuit was filed to help advance a free and open electoral process for all candidates and voters. Candidate rights and voter rights nourish each other for more voices, choices, and a more open and competitive democracy."

Among other things, the lawsuit alleges that the DNC tried to bankrupt Nader's campaign by suing to keep him off the ballot in 18 states. It also suggests the DNC sent Kerry supporters to crash a Nader petition drive in Portland, Ore., in June 2004, preventing him from collecting enough signatures to get on the ballot.

Is he running again?

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:48 PM
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1. Nader can kiss my tired old ass. I am so sick of that fuckstick.
I'd love it if Granny D would pick up a tire iron and beat the living shit out of that asshole. And she could do it, too.

He's nothing but an ineffectual scold, a childish hectoring whiner.

I wish he'd run, run, run like a madman--after those lemmings and off that cliff.

I've had more than enough of that stupid blowhard.
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:49 PM
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2. He is such a republican.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:59 AM
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11. He is, check his 2000 and 2004 campaign contributions, most from GOPers
Who were also giving money to the Bush/Cheney campaign.
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:31 AM
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51. They gave Nader $$$ so he would split up the Dem vote N/T
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:50 PM
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3. I hope that this law suit will be dismissed immediately
and if not, he will lose and then let's hope that he has to pay the costs of the trial.

What a pathetic loser who needs to be in the headlines.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:44 AM
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40. Nader needs to be dismissed immediately as well....he's a freak and a PEST n/t
.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:21 AM
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4. Good!...Nader fucking rocks!
Sorry, but our two-party, winner takes all system sucks!

Especially with the two parties we are stuck with now.

How many of us will have to hold our fucking noses as we vote for our dem candidate.

The system is rigged! It fucking sucks!

It's stupid to blame those who are actually trying to shake things up. Nader has been doing that forever.

I voted for Ralph in 2000, and I'm glad I did. I might vote for him again if I don't care for the dem candidate.

:hide:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:30 AM
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5. I'd prepare for a thorough flaming
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. The system isn't rigged. The nader voters siphoned votes from Dems. Thanks....
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:04 AM
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13. Bullshit!
The elections were rigged & everyone knows it.

Gore and Kerry both won.

Sorry!
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:21 AM
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23. The election was allowed to be fucked with because Florida was up for grabs by 500 votes
Because of Nader-ites voting for a man who is really a republican.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:33 AM
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35. Nader got 95,000 votes in Florida....so yeah Gore would have got Florida
EASILY if Nader hadn't of run....even if a quarter of those Nader votes were cast for Gore, there would have been NO SCOTUS thing, there wouldn't have needed to be.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:13 AM
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55. They obviously didn't like Gore.
Perhaps we should form rapid response teams to go out and beat people into compliance when they "vote the wrong way". :eyes:

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:51 AM
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7. Nader pretends to care about opening up the system
but all he really cares about is accumulating more personal power. In 2000, he proved that he could throw an election with only a few percent of the vote. He tried to do it again in 2004, but was stopped when the Dems challenged thousands of fraudulent voter petitions gathered by his supporters.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:04 AM
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14. Bullshit!
Gore won!

Get over it!
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:07 AM
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17. Gore WOULD have been in the WH, if fucking Nader would have fucked off and NOT run
You "get over it"....Nader and his supporters are MoFo's who need to STFU.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #17
24. wait...i thought it was the supreme court who installed the fuckhead
into the white house.

if the scotus hadn't been stacked gore would be in the white house
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:31 AM
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33. It WOULDN'T have even gone to the SCOTUS IF Nader wouldn't have run
Nader got 95,000 votes in Florida....and with Florida coming down to a few hundred votes, IF Nader would have kept his ugly fucking dirty ass OUT of Florida....then a good portion of those votes would have been cast for Gore.

The Naderites USE the SCOTUS thing to justify their vote for the effing bastard Ralph Nader....the Naderites chose NOT to think about the vote totals Nader got and what WOULD have happened IF Nader would have kept his ass OUT of the race.

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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #17
27. Definition:Naderism: "The act of willfully screwing up so that others, and oneself, suffer. "
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 06:08 AM
Response to Reply #17
50. Is it possible to recommend a post within a thread?
:yourock:
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #7
25. Yes, he is a slime-ball. A friend said to me recently."Ecoli, Lead in kid's toys...Nader....Nader?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:53 AM
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8. standing by
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #4
9. I believe there is a Third Party Underground somewhere....
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:05 AM
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15. Yeah, they should eff off there....we don't want this Naderite crap happening AGAIN
They infiltrated and infested this place before and caused trouble.

This is for Democrats primarily, and other people who mightn't be Democrats, but will be COMMITTED to assisting the Democratic nominee get elected President.

We shouldn't be allowing the Naderites here, in my humble opinion.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:12 AM
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20. I'm a registered Democrat..
Sorry to fuck up all your neat and tidy pigeon-holes.

You think I'm "infesting this place"?

Bite me!
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:16 AM
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21. So why are you WILLING to vote for Nader AGAIN then?
Your crowd are the biggest SCREECHERS that Centrist Democrats like me are "DINO'S"....when it's your crowd who are the DINO'S.

I voted for Al Gore....not effing Ralph Nader....and I don't give a shit WHO the Democratic nominee is, I'll vote for them.

Yeah the Naderites do infest, like cockroaches.
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:23 AM
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26. I think there are probaly always people who want to fuck things up for others. Definition: Nader-ite
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #26
30. I'm for third parties..
I'm for instant run-off......proportional representation.....something different than the rigged-up and fucked system we are now dealing with.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:43 AM
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39. Why doesn't Nader just run in SAFE states? Why does he run in CRUCIAL SWING states?
Why doesn't Nader just run in states that are either safe GOP or safe Democratic?

Why does he run in swing states, where it ALWAYS comes down to between 2%-3% EITHER way?

Answer: To HELP the Republicans that's why.

Ralph Nader would chop his own LEGS off in order to PREVENT a Democrat winning a Presidential Election.
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LandOLincoln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #30
42. So you think voting for that traitorous asshole
is the way to achieve your goals?

Are you really as stupid as you sound?
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:36 AM
Response to Reply #30
60. Sounds great...of we were in a great democracy......we are in a flawed one.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #26
37. Yeah I think that's the dictionary definition of a Fucker-Upper: A Naderite n/t
.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:25 AM
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28. I never said I would vote for him again
I voted for him in 2000. I did it to make a statement. I live in a "safe state" (CA)

In 2004, I voted for Kucinich in the primary and Kerry in the General.

I like the fact that Nader's voice is out there. I always agree with 99% of what he says when I listen to him.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #28
43. I refer you to your post # 4, where you stated:
"Sorry, but our two-party, winner takes all system sucks!

Especially with the two parties we are stuck with now.

How many of us will have to hold our fucking noses as we vote for our dem candidate.

The system is rigged! It fucking sucks!

It's stupid to blame those who are actually trying to shake things up. Nader has been doing that forever.

I voted for Ralph in 2000, and I'm glad I did. I might vote for him again if I don't care for the dem candidate."


Highlight quote:

"I VOTED FOR RALPH IN 2000, AND I'M GLAD I DID* I MIGHT VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN IF I DON'T CARE FOR THE DEM CANDIDATE."


So, did you already forget you wrote this in your post # 4?

* BTW IF you voted for Nader in 2000, then, you and ALL of the Naderites really have no right to criticize or whine about ANYTHING W has done since 2001....because YOU helped keep Florida CLOSE....close enough for W to take from Gore....you helped PUT W in the WH....there would have been NO IRAQ WAR without the Naderites, YOU helped start the Iraq War, you helped put the nutter in the WH in the first place, remember?

Gore as President wouldn't have invaded Iraq.

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. Richard Perle is a registered Democrat as well....did you know that?
Being registered Democratic means jackshit....it's WHO you VOTE for that counts.

And the Naderites voted for that little shitass instead of Gore....that makes the Naderites NOT friends of the Democratic Party, and the Naderites would vote for Ralph AGAIN to fuck up the 2008 Presidential Election for the Democratic nominee....and you'd DO it at the drop of a hat.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #22
34. How dare you call Ralph Nader a little shitass?
He makes a lot more sense than you are making.

Lots of folks in safe states voted for Nader to show their disdain for the business as usual two-party bullshit. Big fucking deal!

Gore won, but the corrupt U.S. Supreme W. Court didn't let him serve.

Don't blame Ralph.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #34
36. Sorry, he's a FUCKING little shitass....I've already answered the SCOTUS thing
You Naderites live in denial, YOU are RESPONSIBLE for George W. Bush being in the WH....YOU are RESPONSIBLE because you gave Nader 95,000 votes in Florida and it came down to Florida and the Naderites made Florida just TOO CLOSE....and that's how it ended up in the SCOTUS.

Nader and his little shit ass supporters SENT W to the WH.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #9
16. Good!
Thanks for the tip!

I'll check it out..
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:08 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. Yeah, do it soon as well....
Get your fellow Naderites to go with you too.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:10 AM
Response to Reply #9
47. Good answer n/t
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #4
12. Shouldn't you be on Green Party Underground then?
You Naderites need to take a walk IF you're going to start this shit again, about voting for a Third Party asshole.

Fact is, no matter WHO the Democratic nominee is, I'll vote for them....and I dare say that the good portion of other DUer's will as will.

I'm hoping that the Naderites just fuck off someplace, because if you come out with this shit again, you're NOT wanted.
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #12
31. I think your posts are great. This is what these Nader-ites need - a dose of reality.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:40 AM
Response to Reply #31
38. I'm ARMED with a FUCKING Chainsaw this time for them
DU is for Democrats and for people who mightn't be Democrats but are COMMITTED to working their asses off to SUPPORT the Democratic Presidential nominee....no matter who he or she might be.

We WANT a Democrat in the WH come January 20th, 2009.

The Naderites are PESTS, they need to go and sling their hook and take their crap somewhere else.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #38
56. A DLCer accusing others of not being Democrats?
Priceless!

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #56
58. I voted for Al Gore....the Naderites DIDN'T and they'd vote Third Party AGAIN
Given the choice.

So, the point that you're UNSUCCESSFULLY trying to make is what again?
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #12
57. "no matter WHO the Democratic nominee is"
Hillarybots say that a lot. You'd vote for Cheney if he switched parties.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:52 AM
Response to Reply #4
44. I should have known. nt
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #4
54. Change is bad ...
Change is scary. Nader wants to change the system. That makes him scary.

Don't rock the boat. They give you 2 choices. Choose your poison and be happy.

Ingrate!

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:57 AM
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10. Is he running again? You asked
Ralph Fuckhead will run but ONLY if the Presidential race is close....then he'll do what the GOP pay him to do*, he'll get in the race so he can throw the election to the GOP Presidential candidate.

*Most of Nader's campaign contributions in 2000 and 2004 were given by Republicans who were also giving money to the Bush/Cheney campaign....Ralph's a little GOP buttboy, is what he is.

He's also a POS that needs to fuck off, he's a prick of the HIGHEST order....in fact, I fucking HATE the fucking MoFo, and I'd spit in his fucking face if I ever saw him.

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:11 AM
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19. I think this thread SHOULD be locked please Moderators....because
Well I'm seconds away from going ballistic on a CERTAIN poster in this thread....and I really don't want that to happen, considering I pride myself on being polite and courteous.

The Naderites are PESTS and they SUCK ASS, just like their POS leader Ralph is a PEST and SUCKS ASS.

:nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #19
29. jeeze, temperance--take a breath. n/t
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:52 AM
Response to Reply #29
45. Why? I'm usually calm and polite....but when something does PISS me OFF
I blow in a big way....and I'm actually LIKING bashing the fucking Naderite sewer rats now.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #19
32. whoa dude,

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #32
46. Yeah I was burning up, why? Because I FUCKING HATE Ralph Nader AND the Naderites n/t
.
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LandOLincoln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:45 AM
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41. I thought for a minute this was satire, but I should have known better.
Sweet Jesus, how I despise that sonofabitch--and I'm not real fond of the idiots who continue to stand up for him, despite his obvious shilling for the reichwing.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:12 AM
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48. I hope that any Democrat who voted for him regrets their dirty deed.
Nader is a bag of shit.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:30 AM
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49. Ralph, fer fuck's sake go away
You're not a viable candidate, you're not going to single-handedly break or change the two-party 'duopoly', and you certainly aren't going to advance your agenda by relentlessly attacking the only party that is even remotely receptive to your ideas. You wanna be President? Then stop running against the Dems and start running with them. Get over your bloated, "I'm-so-good-I-should-be-able-to-jump-right-into-the-general-election-debates-with-0.4%-of-the-vote" ego, start a *real* grassroots campaign, and run in the Dem primaries like Kucinich (who is doing an admirable job of trying to change the party's direction without trying to destroy it). Otherwise, go back to consumer advocacy, where you can still make a difference.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:31 AM
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52. "tried to bankrupt Nader's campaign "
I'm sure the Repuke donations kept him afloat.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:02 AM
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53. You misspelled his name. It's Nadir.
:evilgrin:

He's such a self important douche bag!:puke:
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:26 AM
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59. Nader is A Republican operative, bought and paid for
Follow the money. Ralph's a Millionaire Reep.
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