Frank Luntz's Focus Group on last night's debate.

[Colobo]

http://prezvid.com/2007/10/31/obama-wins-says-fox/

[BootinUp]

1. I can't watch it now, is it a repuke or democrat panel?

[Adelante]

8. "Angry" Dems, Jim4

They were very positive on Obama :)

[BootinUp]

11. thanks,

Obama did very well at times in the debate.

[rocktivity]

2. You're a dead pundit walking, Frank

Nobody cares what you think--and I'm sorry that's more than one word.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Cha]

3. luntz was a dead pundit

years ago..his cadaver still gets paid by corporatemediawhores to do their bidding.

[RufusEarl]

4. I just don't care what Luntz has to say!

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[insanad]

24. Educated Guess

In the past I've never been very interested in Politics. I always considered anyone who had risen through the ranks to be dirty, probably a corrupt player, and hardly worth giving my time or attention to. As our nation has reeled in the wake of Bush and his war and the horrible infringements on the Constitutional rights, the economical fiasco, and the heartbreaking loss of many of our best young people in Iraq I HAD to decide to care. Three years ago I saw Barack Obama on some television interview, and then read more and more about him. I decided to do more research and inform myself so that if I chose to support someone, it was with all the information, all the history, and a balanced perspective into that persons choices. I did not choose to back him based on his appearance, his charisma, his popularity, or his rhetoric. I chose based on his leadership skills, his integrity, his compassion for the American people, and his intellect.

I had the good fortune to attend an event in Las Vegas and even to shake Barack Obama's hand. All the giddy little girl excitement was palpable as he approached, but it soon gave way to the deep respect and admiration for this Senator's strength, his commitment to stay on target of his purpose to lead our country.

After reading "Audacity of Hope" and his auto-biography "Dreams From My Father" I was even more interested in learning about the political endeavors of Barack Obama. His website provides some very clear and interesting points and is easy to read. For anyone curious about him I highly recommend browsing it.

I lost so much respect for Hilary Clinton while Bill was in his second term. It wasn't because of his shenanigans and the foolish way he took his role as the President of the United States so casually, but for her lack of forthright condemnation of his actions. One can still love and support their loved one even when they do something stupid, but she in essence took American women back 50 years by assisting him in denying, covering up, and minimizing the act(s) that he committed. She enabled him, not just then, but possibly throughout their marriage by not making him accept responsibility for what he did. It is that lack of consequences that he understood as "license" to continue to fool around, to see his acts as so easy to dismiss. They stood and lied together to the American people.

Her choice to not oppose the war, to give George Bush the money and support to start this war, to continue to fund it, and to never apologize or recognize her part in this mess is another reflection of her willingness to enable the very demons that we are all fighting to expel now. By not holding strong to the values that she should have represented as a Democrat and as an American, she in essence agrees with this war, if not by action, then by sins of omission.

Barack Obama not only opposed this "Dumb war" from the beginning, but he's been active and direct in his efforts to help us get out. He has encouraged his fellow Senators and political peers to engage in diplomacy, in holding George Bush accountable, and in doing all possible to stop and exit this terrible situation. He has not enabled, will not ignore or pacify, and is willing to strongly initiate and support the laws and political moves necessary to get us out. I'm so very proud of him. I hope others will see that his judgment, his strength of character, and his deep commitment to doing what's right whether it makes him popular or not is far more important than opinion polls.

[iverglas]

25. y'know, I'm a big non-fan of Hillary Clinton

You will still never, ever hear me refer to her OR ANY OTHER WOMAN as a bitch as you have done.

I just don't want to be part of that misogynistic discourse, no matter who is engaging in it and whom they are talking about. I'd request that you show the same respect for WOMEN, regardless of your feelings about Clinton.


Oh, p.s. That goes for the author of post 5, as well. It is no more appropriate to describe a woman's speech as having an "edgy bitch tone" than it is to call her a bitch, or to call an Italian a ... well, you know.

[hijinx87]

6. luntz is a rethug toady

and even my few rethug friends think he is a whack job.

[Catherine Vincent]

15. Perfect description of Luntz!

[hijinx87]

17. the sight of his "carefully selected" sample group

sitting there twisting those ridiculous dials while
they sway back and forth as though they are playing
nintendo is hilarious.

and all the while luntz is running around like elmer
fudd having a bad acid trip.

not to mention the fact that he has been unfailingly
wrong about every election since about 1996 . . .

I find it impossible to take him seriously.

[sundancekid]

7. since the participants were "mad as hell" democrats, I am UNWILLING to throw out the baby ...

with the bathwater .... it wasn't Lutz that turned the dials, so I choose to listen, and give the results their appropriate due - no more and no less; imagine that: voters that won't fall for the all-or-nothing meme

[cuke]

10. More right wing drivel from an Obama supporter

[jefferson_dem]

16. Were all of the focus group participants in on the "vast right wing conspiracy"?

:shrug:

[cuke]

18. Another Obama supporter defending right wing propoganda

[Colobo]

30. If it's not favorable to Hillary, it's right wing propaganda.

[zulchzulu]

12. Thanks for the link

Frank Luntz, like him or not, does do good focus group work. I work with people in that business and he's good at what he does.

[Catherine Vincent]

14. That's a load of bull.

He only does good focus group work for republicans.

[zulchzulu]

21. Put it this way... we need a Democratic Fred Luntz

He's good at what he does...

[cuke]

19. Another Obama supporter defending right wing propoganda

[Forkboy]

22. LOL

I've only been on DU for about 20 minutes today, and already it's been funny as hell around here. :rofl:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

13. Lutz has ZERO credibility...

as an non-partisan pollster. Sorry. :shrug:

[sandnsea]

20. The fear mongering segment was excellent

I hope the campaign turns that into an ad because that's the kind of thing people are wanting to hear and that's what makes a clear distinction between Obama and Hillary.

[Doctor_J]

23. Please do not give that lying ultra-partisan wingnut any hits

Jeez, what the FUCK is wrong with you people?

[ClarkUSA]

26. I'd like to see focus group results on likely Democratic Iowa caucus goers.

They are the ones that count in 65 days.

[illinoisprogressive]

27. the group were dems and they really liked Obama's debate performance.

[cuke]

28. Luntz want Obama to win the nom because Obama will be a weak opponent

[Colobo]

31. Wrong.

[Nimrod2005]

29. I am not suprised

[FredScuttle]

32. What fresh hell is this?

What's next.....Dick Morris' expert opinion on the debate? Michelle Malkin's concern trolling for the Democrats?

Well, one more thing to check off my list of "Things I Thought I'd Never See On DU" - legitimizing Frank Luntz' bullshit

[Colobo]

33. I've seen his focus group stuff posted for every debate.

No big deal.

[FredScuttle]

34. Yeah, usually for mockery and our general amusement at his partisan hackery

n/t

[2rth2pwr]

35. That's worse than Lieberman's "endorsement" nt

[Silence Dogood]

36. I for one was very disappointed in Obama's performance last night

If I have to hear one more time, he has had community experience while he served in the state legislature, I'm gonna scream. Here I donated my electric bill money to his campaign because he said he was desperate and my lights got shut off today. I thought he was going to take Hillary on last night. What happened to the plan? He was a disappointing dud last night.

My neighbor is allowing me to run an extension cord to their outside electrical plug giving me the use of my computer until tomorrow. Amazing how much light my laptop produces.

[Karmadillo]

37. If you can't trust Frank Luntz, who can you trust?

nt