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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:29 AM
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The reviews are in: Democrats WON!
Just sayin'.

We have the strongest field of candidates in YEARS.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:34 AM
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1. I completely agree. They're all great. nt
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:36 AM
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2. I figured after the blood in water ....
something POSITIVE should be said.

But around here that goes over like a turd in a punch bowl.
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insanad Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:38 PM
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38. Glaring MIstakes
I said MAYBE, and that's my final answer!!!

I think I have a good picture of what Bill Clinton faces daily when he's being a typical naughty boy. Hilary's face was absolutely reflective of her bristling anger and resentful bitterness as she glared at Obama with daggers that would pierce through a steel and concrete bomb shelter. Imagine if she wins the nomination and then faces the onslaught of the Republicans and other people who don't want her there. We'll have that face, that edgy bitch tone, that harsh rebuke and glaring resentment facing us every day on the news. It's hard enough to have the shit flinging chimpanzee of George Bush gesticulating and goofing daily but at least he's easy to dismiss as the buffoon he is. Having Hilary nag and rant and chide would make me cancel my cable.

When I watch these debates I'm in awe of the stamina and grace that any of these candidates must muster. The questions can set one up for a disaster and a cool head, thoughtful but quick and focused answer must be given. Every nuance of a facial gesture or tick is noted and analyzed for signs of honesty or emotional reaction. Then there's the time limits that force the one answering to give in essence, a committed yes or no, even if there's qualifiers.

From a debate standpoint, from a perspective of who can take charge even when they're not in charge, from a measure of one's grace and quick decisiveness, a sense of humor, an ability to stay on message and turn trick questions in their favor BARACK ROCKS!!!! I loved his response to the UFO thing, his response to the Social Security mess, his Halloween response, and the absolute dignified and intelligent demeanor he exudes when he's on stage. God I hope he can win. Not because I'm caught up in his electrifying charisma, but because his ideas, his leadership, his ability to reflect strength and diplomatic reason are all the kinds of things our nation needs to help us heal from the years of George Bush and his disastrous presidency. If anyone can take this bag of broken glass that is our nations economy, military, and reputation and make a virtual stained glass window to illuminate the goodness that is inherent in America, then I believe Barack Obama can.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:39 PM
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40. and for you too .......
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 12:40 PM by ronnykmarshall


I can cut and paste too.

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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:58 PM
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45. I take it you would feel better if it were a male candidate doing the "bitching",
because in males, you would consider the same attributes to be an indicator of strength, and authority?

:shrug:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:17 PM
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53. Now, when's the last time we've read a reference to a man being "a nag?" Just curious! nt
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:37 AM
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3. No Edwards won... Hillary LOST...
This is just a bad attempt at glossing over her failure last night with a Rodney King "can't we all just get along" spin...

It's time to make a distinction between the available Democratic choices and choose the best one that will tell the truth and the one that can win.

That's John Edwards.

Hillary got shown to be the two faced weasel worder that she IS last night and it's time we send her back to NY.

Doug D.
Orlando, FL

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:43 AM
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6. Thanks for proving my point.
:eyes:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:03 PM
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14. So now its Hillary - 13, Edwards - 1. Go John!
Its kind of funny that you use the word two faced since we have two John Edwards, the Senator and the Candidate.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:10 PM
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:17 PM
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20. Now I wonder if Edwards did win.
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 12:17 PM by rinsd
I mean you're acting so pissed off even in this simple positive thread (well at least it was till you took a dump on it) that it is quite strange.

:shrug:

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:22 PM
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23. Stop wondering - Edwards did win...
I'm just stopping the Hillary spin machine that is trying to re-write history today on the blogs. Sorry if you don't like it...

Doug D.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:29 PM
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27. Re-write history? So how deep does your rabbit hole go?
"Sorry if you don't like it..."

What's not to like?

You have a short temper and tenuous grasp of facts.

For me, you provide a valuable service as warm up for debating people who actually know what they are talking about.

Thanks!

:hug:

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:32 PM
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30. Blather on... you know and I know Hillary lost...
Enjoy your defeat...

:P
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:25 PM
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26. Leave it to a Hillary hater to stink up a prositive thread.
Way to go.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:29 PM
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28. No shit.
I'd hate to know someone that is so negative and hatefull. This place seems to have a fair of those.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:35 PM
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35. But there are plenty of Do-Bees that make the place worth coming to!
:hi:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:35 PM
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34. and leave it to a polyanna to ask us to "just all get along" in the middle of a primary...
Sorry but the can't we just all get along approach only benefits Hillary Clinton.

Doug D.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:38 PM
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39. Just for you .... cuz you're soooooo sweet!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:39 PM
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41. Yes why be positive when you can be crumudgeonly jerk.
Do the Edwards campaign a favor and don't promote your support of him too loudly.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:50 PM
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44. This is only one thread, Dougie
Chill.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:40 AM
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4. Does that mean that the terrorists won?
I'm askeered.
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:37 PM
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LOL!!!! n/t
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:43 AM
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5. Agreed
...and now I'm even more sure I don't like HRC.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:44 AM
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7. and thank you too
for proving my point.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:45 AM
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8. I agree. Even the 2nd tier are amazing.
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 11:46 AM by applegrove
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:47 AM
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9. The 2nd tier really shone last night IMO
Particularly Biden.

I have my faves and least aves, but I could vote for any of them with no problem
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:57 AM
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10. Me too. If I could vote. But I'm not American. But I can hope can't I.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:58 AM
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11. Don't let that stop you
Just come. We'll find a dead person you can vote for
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:50 PM
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43. LOL!. I'am actually getting more interested in the politics of Canada
as we have a neocon as minority government PM these days and I am terrified of him getting a majority. So I'm gravitating back to Canadian news and such.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:00 PM
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12. I agree and
this race is far from over! Biden and Dodd were great and I hope they realloy start to gain some momentum.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:11 PM
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17. I agree 100%
Biden was great.

Tom Hartman is playing that great clip from the debate.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:02 PM
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13. I thought they were all good, too
I feel like I watched a completely different debate that most of DU seems to have seen. :crazy:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:12 PM
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18. I know, right?
I think now I can honestly say that the majority of people in here are not happy unless they have something to attack and complain about.

Fuckin' third graders.
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phen43 Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:04 PM
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15. they all did a fine job and we should be proud of ALL of our candidates!!
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:16 PM
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19. WOW, something positive on the Political Board?
What the hell were you thinking?:evilgrin:


I agree with you by the way. It was a good night for Democrats. I like it best when the candidates turn on the repubs (not on each other).

kick and recommend
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:33 PM
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31. Scary, huh?
Since it's Halloween I figured we needed a break from all the blood and guts.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:18 PM
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21. Unfortunately we have to choose one
And if it is Hillary, it won't matter how good the others are cuz we're losing the general election.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:32 PM
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29. My aren't we a ray of sun shine.
More like a sack of ......


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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:06 PM
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46. Truth comes in many forms
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:20 PM
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48. Indeed
and your doing a great job of "spreading" it.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:20 PM
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22. The Big Loser was Tim Russert!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:46 PM
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42. Russert is an asshole.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:46 PM
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52. Yep.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:22 PM
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24. you are much too positive to be posting here. nt.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:34 PM
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33. I like being the Odd Duck!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:22 PM
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25. They all have unique strengths and weaknesses.
But everyone of them is sane and competent. Something in short supply with the field of clowns that the Republican Party is running.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:33 PM
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32. Thom Hartmann just agreed that everyone's overall performance
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 12:34 PM by bullwinkle428
was excellent! I know it's standard operating procedure for DUers to jump onto TEH INTERNETS at the conclusion of each debate, thump their chest, and declare victory for their candidate, but I'm willing to admit as someone leaning towards Edwards (and even including the fact he was deemed the winner on the Daily Kos poll by a 3:1 margin), that Biden impressed me most of all last night, and no one truly let me down (not including the questioners :grr: )...
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:35 PM
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36. The questioners sucked
and yeah ... Biden "won" it in my book. He was fantastic.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:37 PM
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37. Yes...absolutely right
This is the most impressive array of candidates I've seen in several years.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:08 PM
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47. There you go again, Ronny.
Bein' all positive and stuff.



We wanna be grouchy, darnit.

Harumph!


P.S. Thanks for the positive post!

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:21 PM
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49. That kid is a crack up!
:rofl:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:39 PM
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50.  I agree -- and the GOP candidates are just totally PATHETIC!!
Any one of our candidates is preferable to any what the GOP has scraped together. What a bunch of losers! Their debates are all about trying to out-delusion each other about BushCo's "successes."
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:46 PM
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51. We haven't seen the strongest candidate in the debates yet -- Al Gore
Gore/Richardson '08 -- that's the ticket.
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