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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:53 PM
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Edwards: Hillary Is Unelectable, And You Should Be Very, Very Afraid


Edwards: Hillary Is Unelectable, And You Should Be Very, Very Afraid
By Greg Sargent - October 31, 2007, 2:36PM

In honor of Halloween, the Edwards camp has found a fun -- if not terribly subtle -- way to suggest that Hillary is unelectable, emailing this mock newspaper out to supporters a few moments ago:

There's a lot of amusing detail there to pore over -- note the "D.C. Insider Edition" in the top right-hand corner, for instance.

As for whether it's, you know, factually accurate, it's true that some Democrats around the country have (anonymously) told reporters that they worry about her effect on the down-ticket races, but Hillary is beating all the top GOP contenders in a fair amount of state and national polls.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/edwards_hillary_is_unelectable_and_you_should_be_very_very_afraid.php
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:55 PM
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1. Vote for a true populist. Vote for Edwards. n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:56 PM
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2. They need to install a limbo pole.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:56 PM
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3. "Ann Coulter tapped as spokeswoman"
I thought she already was?
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:57 PM
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4. Yeah, I have that feeling too
but if she's nominated, I'm going to back her.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 01:58 PM
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5. Considering that Rudy beats Edwards in the NorthEast, that paper may not be that far off....
...should he become the nominee.

Especially when he sits there with no money in the bank and un-coordinated defense/counterattack for 3 to 4 months before the convention as the Wurlitzer goes full bore.

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:01 PM
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6. Its possible that any democratic nominee can lose
or win.

My concern is, that if the nominee loses, we are left with a frightening cadre of republicans who are trying to out-bush bush.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:10 PM
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8. 72 million Dems, 55 million Reps, 42 million Inds.
If they count the votes, we win.

Republicans need 30 million inds to beat us. We only need 13 million inds to beat THEM. Where do you get the bizarre idea that there's any fifty-fifty toss-up going on here?

1. The economy is tanking.

2. The war is tanking.

3. Inflation is eating every dime.

4. Gas is $3 a gallon.

What part of that leads to Giuliani, the adulterer who brought his mistress into his wife's home while the children were present?
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:11 PM
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9. Just because they register don't mean they vote. n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:23 PM
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11. True. But the Republicans are much unhappier with their slate than we are.
Using actual logic, who would then be most likely to stay home?

We win.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:57 PM
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16. You can't guarantee a Dem will win - Kerry already did that - and look at how that turned out.
Hate to scare you on Halloween or anything, but the voter election fraud issues haven't been dealt with by this Democratic Congress.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:13 AM
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23. It's not "Voter Fraud" we need to be concerned with, it's "Election Fraud"
Two stolen elections are more than I ever thought I'd see in one lifetime.

The Republican machine uses the "voter fraud" issue to disenfranchise legitimate voters while committing election fraud right out in the open.

Haven't we had enough?
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:12 PM
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30. I knew someone would correct me for saying that.
But, they still haven't done anything to fix it, so it doesn't matter what it's called.
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:40 PM
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22. True, but still.
Kerry proved that not being a republican isn't enough to "win". Our candidate actually has to stand for something and fight for it, and not let the republicans define them.
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:23 PM
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12. More people in the North East----NY, NJ, Conn, Pa, would be
concerned about National Security issues than, say, people in Iowa. The NE was the area most effected by 911.

I would think that Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton would be the most acceptable and electable in that regard. In my opinion, they are the two that come across as "tough". John edwards--not so much.

I see only Biden and Clinton as the ones able to take on Rudi.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:04 PM
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7. Pretty clever of the Edwards' campaign. Fun, too!
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:14 PM
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10. Hillary didn't sponsor the war - that will matter in the GE. It's Edwards who has
no chance - remember his debate with Dick?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:24 PM
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13. Translation: I'm a rich white man, vote for me! Or should we call this Edward's...
...politics of smears and fears?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:44 PM
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15. There isn't a word about Hillary in the email - I have one. The link the OP
got the headline from makes that statement. Not Edwards. It's more of the usual make something into something it isn't.
The email text is pretty standard political fare:


"This nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue is not as remote as you might think—but you can keep it from coming true.

With just hours to go before our deadline for federal matching funds at midnight tonight, your contribution today will help John Edwards win the Democratic nomination—and scare off the Republicans in 2008!

Polls show that with candidates other than John Edwards at the top of the Democratic ticket, Democrats will have a tough time defending the blue states and winning the swing states we'll need to take the White House in 2008. We could even lose our majorities in Congress!

The American people are hungry for change. They don't want a candidate who defends the broken system in Washington. Any candidate who stands with the lobbyists instead of the American people will lose.

But with John Edwards at the top of the ticket, we can turn red states blue, build stronger Democratic majorities in Congress, and help Democrats take back more governorships and state legislatures across the country.

Because John knows that in this election, we need a bold leader—not someone who's just a little better than the Republicans. John is the only candidate in the race who has won in a red state. And poll after poll show him out-performing all the other Democrats against all of the top Republican candidates—especially in the swing states and red states we'll need to win to take back the White House.

So don't wait—click here to help us meet our goal of raising $500,000 online before the deadline strikes at midnight tonight!

Thank you for taking action—and Happy Halloween!

Sincerely,

--Jonathan Prince"


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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:29 AM
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24. I guess the shoe fit.
...

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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:27 PM
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14.  . . . says the only proven loser of a national election in the race.
:eyes:

c'mon. that's like believing a ford commercial saying that
chevies suck.


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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 02:59 PM
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17. I am afraid and agree with Edwards. I will vote for any of the Dem candidates EXCEPT HRC.
I intend to write-in AL GORE, should she be the nominee.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 03:05 PM
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18. OMG! GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 03:07 PM by Aya Reiko
God... Desperate Eddy?

This is bad... laughably baa-aad. No one is going to buy the ludicrous picture Edwards is trying to paint. It will make Eddy look even more like a complete joke. If this is his way of campaigning, Eddy, please drop out now.

Edit-

If this really did come from Edwards' campaign, then this is definitely his Jump the Shark moment.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:35 AM
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26. [deleted]
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 11:36 AM by jmp
...
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 03:49 PM
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19. I guess this is what you do
when you're flopping around in 3rd place and going nowhere fast.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 03:56 PM
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20. Is this for real?
I don't think the Iowa Democrats will appreciate the "humor."
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:19 PM
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21. I'm white! I'm male! And I have staffers who can photoshop!
Very, very unimpressed.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:32 AM
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25. Close enough to steal.


:scared:
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:36 AM
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27. I love how the Hillarybots read her into this.
The human psyche is a wondrous thing. ;)


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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:39 AM
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28. Not just "Hillarybots"
Hillary Clinton is "unelectable," so says Edwards in a Halloween edition of "Scary Times."

The question from Edwards: What if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee?
The answer: Rudy Giuliani will be the next president.

If this is supposed to be cute it's not. If it's supposed to be funny no Democrat should be laughing.

Edwards also sent out a long bio piece to Iowans, 12 pages or so according to Chase Martyn, to try to balance out this hit piece. Considering his money gap it's amazing this is what Edwards chose to do. It's obvious he's trying to balance his new attack dog tactics with his small town mill town boy makes good dream story.

Everyone needs to understand the ramifications of what Edwards especially, with Russert doing the heavy lifting last night, is doing. With Edwards being double digit numbers behind, he is putting his own future above the importance of the Democratic party brand in the general election through choosing to destroy the frontrunner however he can, no matter the tactic. Edwards is getting personal. He has now decided to lead the most negative campaign he can, even if by the end of it he loses the nomination, which is even more likely today than it was two weeks ago, because Iowans are not going to like this tactic. Women will hate it and see it for what it is. Desperation.

Question: What cost will there be for eviscerating Clinton so personally and bloodying our brand?

Answer: Handing the '08 election to Republicans.

Besides, how does using scare tactics right out of wingnut central help Democrats? It doesn't.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/

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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:17 PM
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29. Where does it specifically mention Hillary Clinton?
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