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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:06 PM
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Lieberman backs Hillary, trashes Edwards
Lieberman backs Hillary, trashes Edwards

At his campaign stop last Friday in Iowa, since no one in the audience brought up the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, Edwards himself brought it up.

"Have all of you seen Bush and Cheney rattling their sabers about Iran? It makes you nervous, doesn't it?" he told the crowd of about 200.

Many voices in the crowd said, "Yeah."

"We've heard this before, right? We heard it in the lead up to (the invasion of) Iraq," he said. "We have to stand up to this president; we can not give him an inch. Not when it comes to an issue of war."

When informed of Edwards's remarks, Lieberman said, "It's exactly the opposite. I think Sen. Edwards totally misreads it. It's unfair to criticize Sen. Clinton for this vote. It was a sensible vote, a vote to try to use all the economic power we have so that we don't have to contemplate military action against Iran." <...>

As for Edwards and those who voted 'no' on the Kyl-Lieberman measure, he said, "They mistrust George Bush more than they mistrust the Iranians. Isn't that a sorry state of affairs?"

He wondered, "Do they not trust Joe Lieberman? Do they not trust me?"


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21553970/
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:07 PM
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1. So does Joe approve of Hillary's downsizing of our presence in Iraq too?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:10 PM
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17. Has Sen Clinton committed to downsizing or presence in Iraq? I don't believe it.
Lieberman like her because he knows she won't.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:53 PM
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40. short answer yes
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:25 PM
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41. I truly hope that isn't a bunch of rhetoric. nm
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:08 PM
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2. Maybe Obama should give his mentor a call.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:09 PM
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3. Tells you everything you need to know about Hillary (and Edwards)
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:09 PM
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4. LIARman is nothing more than a scum repuke bastard.
Screw you LIARman!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:10 PM
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5. Hmmm ...
"They mistrust George Bush more than they mistrust the Iranians."

Most people feel that way, too, Joe. Ever wonder why?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:10 PM
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6. No, I don't trust you Joe
and I don't trust Hillary either.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:05 PM
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16. ditto
birds of a feather...
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:12 PM
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7. uh, so, Joe, the guy who has back the illegal invasion of Iraq
and who drafted the Kyl/ LIEberman amendment, is now giving the dems advice on standing up to *.

:wow: the mind boggles.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:15 PM
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8. HAH!
That is PERFECT.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:17 PM
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9. Wow. What a nice endorsement for Hillary.Lieberman. But it matter not to some.
They don't seem to care who her friends are. It is okay for Hillary to be in bed with Lieberman and Murdoch. Perhaps Zell Miller likes her too?
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:30 AM
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50. Bill Kristol next?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:19 PM
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10. This from a man who cant WAIT to attack Iran.
What a joke..
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:20 PM
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11. Lol!
Damned with great praise.

:rofl:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:21 PM
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12. Kyl & Lieberman are honorary Co-Chairs of the Committee on the Present Danger who said to be for...
"regime change in Iran"--according to Juan Cole.

http://www.committeeonthepresentdanger.org/OurMembers/tabid/364/Default.aspx

Look at the rest of their esteemed membership. Neocon PNACers! Frightening on any day!
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:03 PM
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15. That's Hillary's base
You dance for who bought you....
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:47 PM
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13. "Do they not trust Joe Lieberman? Do they not trust me?"
:rofl:

Joe, I think you are probably somewhere inbetween Bush and the Iranians on the trust-o-meter.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 04:47 PM
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14. Lieberman backs Hillary, trashes Edwards?
Just one more reason to run from Hillary and support Edwards.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:36 PM
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27. All the top Republicans are supporting Sen Clinton's run..
If I remember correctly even Bush, Rove and The Dick have expressed their support. Holy Joe does whatever the Neocons tell him to do.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:10 PM
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18. Sounds about right, if you trust Joe vote for Hillary.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:11 PM
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19. That's certainly not helpful
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:12 PM
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20. Lieberman is a fucking republican...republicans want Hillary to be the Dem nominee....
certainly not Edwards! Why do you think republicans donate to Hillary's campaign....again, never ant to Edwards campaign!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:12 PM
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21. Poor Hillary...
Who in their right mind would want an endorsement from saber-rattling Lieberman?!?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:38 PM
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28. If she's smart, she wont accept his support.
and she'll announce it publicly.

Let's see what happens.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:48 PM
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30. What an icky situation...
I'd probably just ignore it if I were in her shoes.
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:16 PM
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22. AWESOME!!!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:19 PM
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23. ahahahahaha oh that makes me all warm and fuzzy!! not..eom
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:24 PM
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24. Congratulations Hillary!!! You played "Let's Make a Deal" and...
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 05:27 PM by RufusTFirefly
... wound up with Jay in a baby costume in a gigantic crib. Good luck, and thanks for playing!! ZONK!!!!!!

Or as my friend Nichomachus puts it: "Having Joe support you is like having toilet paper on your shoe."

:headbang:
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 01:46 PM
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54. I have to agree
The trag-comedy of it that Joe probably honestly believes he's being principled in his support for his fellow warmonger.

What a schmuck!


Or...

Perhaps Joe is calculating here. It is possible that he is just putting his name out early and often in support of the heir apparant in hopes of getting good graces back from the Democratic party. After all he has to run again in a few years again and I am rather certain he will have an even tougher time of it the next time out.

In either case...

Joe is a Schmuck!
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:31 PM
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25. Recommended! How nice to see Hillary has Gollum's support!
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:35 PM
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26. You got it right
Thanks for noticing the inference!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 05:47 PM
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29. When Lieberman and the neocons back Hillary, you know she ain't "our girl."
I will also add that Hillary's idiotic endorsement of Spitzer's plan to give drivers' licenses to illegal aliens will bite her in the ass big time were she to become our nominee.

A lot of Democrats and independents are concerned about illegal immigration, and that includes a significant number of Latinos as well.
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weeve Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 06:32 PM
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31. Yep ...
Further proof ( as if we really needed any more ) that the Right Wing totally wants Hillary to get the nomination. She's the easiest to defeat in the general, will bring out the Right's base to help regain Congressional majorities ... and worse case scenario, should she win ... hey, ALL IS GOOD, she's one of us.

One of US !!


Please Al Gore PLEASE !!! Announce next week, so we can all get behind a TRUE progressive. PLEASE !!
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:04 PM
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32. Of course he does
They are both Progressive Policy Institute http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1534
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:34 PM
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33. Korporate Amerikans stand together!
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:37 PM
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34. Yeah Joe, they don't trust you. Wake up! nt
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:44 PM
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35. Oh, the male version of Hillary is upset! what a riot. good for Edwards
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:25 PM
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36. I don't see an endorsement anywhere in this article
After all, wouldn't Lieberman go with his man crush John McCain?

Granted, an endorsement from Joe in the Dem primaries would be poison.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:41 PM
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37. Joe Lieberman, ex Chairman of the DLC...
..supports the current Darling of the DLC?


The same Joe Lieberman who wants to start bombing Iran immediately supports the only Democratic candidate who signed his legislation to label Iran's Guard a "Terrorist Group"?



Joe Lieberman/Hillary Clinton....


Make no mistakes, if you want to have combat troops fighting in Iraq till 2012, vote for Hillary.---John Edwards


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:50 PM
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39. A little background on that picture of Hillary and Lieberman
On the same day that the Baker-Hamilton commission issued the Iraq Study Group Report, Hillary thought it best to hold a press conference with Lieberman to rail against violent video games. The violence in Iraq, and the ISG recommendations of negotiations and troop withdrawals, were less important to Hillary/Lieberman than violent video games.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:42 PM
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38. Fuck Joe Lieberman.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:42 PM
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42. He's Obama's mentor!! that wasn't very nice of you!!!
:rofl:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:02 AM
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45. Joe Lieberman was Bill Clinton's mentor and law professor
No wonder Hillary and Holy Joe are such chums with one another.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:50 PM
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43. Hmm...trust...Iranians...more than...Bush
Last I looked, zero equals zero. What's the point?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:50 PM
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44. He fits in very well with the other assholes Mark Penn and Rupert Murdoch n/t
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:40 AM
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46. That is nonsense, Joe. We distrust the Bushies and the Iranians EQUALLY.
Tyrants are tyrants and their weak-kneed enablers are their weak-kneed enablers, Joe. That goes for the Iranian Bush and the Iranian Lieberman, too.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:04 AM
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47. Cool. Now I know for sure Edwards is one of the best candidates
That's a fucking great endorsement for him. Edwards is the anti-Lieberman. I like it. :)

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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:01 AM
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48. As far as I'm concerned, Lieberman's backing of Hillary
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 04:06 AM by cornermouse
is a sign that you probably don't want to vote for her. If I was Hillary, I believe I would consider Lieberman's backing a threat to her campaign.

And why does Joe still have the ability to cast a "super vote" in this party? Why hasn't this priveledge been removed since he's now a so-called "independent"?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:25 AM
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49. So does this mean that those who agree w LIEberman should back his candidate of choice-HRC?
sounds like a kiss of death to me.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:41 AM
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51. For any real Dems yes
but for the Neo-Libs it's perfect...
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 01:11 PM
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52. Yet another reason to vote for Edwards
Sorry Hillary...that's one endorsement you really shouldn't have tried to get.
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LindainCinci Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 01:27 PM
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53. No surprise
He wasn't sure he was going to endorse a Dem at all........so he doesn't (DOH!)

Seriously, as we found out after the fact, Mr. "Conscience of the Senate" had ulterior motives and was no fan of Populist Politics. Couldn't wait to complain about Al Gore's Populist Campaign in 2000.

Good thing Al Gore severed his ties with the DLC shortly after.
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