Trick or Treat? Lieberman Backs Clinton, Trashes Edwards

[benny05]

If it weren't enough that Mrs. Clinton performed poorly at the debate last night, Joe Lieberman comes to Clinton's rescue for Halloween (or an early Guy Fawkes' Day celebration).

In discussing his amendment and defending it, as well as Clinton's vote on it:

Lieberman explained, “I thought it was so direct, factual, based on evidence the U.S. military has given us of the involvement of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps in training and equipping Iraqi extremists who… have been responsible for the killing of hundreds of American soldiers.”

Chuckling a bit, apparently in disbelief, Lieberman asked, “How can you vote against a request that the administration impose economic sanctions on a group that the U.S. military has presented us ample evidence is a terrorist group killing American soldiers?”

Here's Clinton's defense of the vote:

On Tuesday night, Clinton explained her vote by saying, “I’m not in favor of this rush to war, but I’m also not in favor of doing nothing. Iran is seeking nuclear weapons and the Iran Revolutionary Guard is in the forefront of that, as they are in the sponsorship of terrorism.”

Lieberman has to help out "his girl" (for those who of you who think that is sexist, remember Hillary told the AFL-CIO "I'm your girl") with this comment:

Lieberman acknowledged Tuesday that some senators don’t trust Bush, but said, “At some point, we’ve got to get over this distrust and partisanship.”

So, it's no longer that Bush has the ring, all. But someone else does.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21553970/

Me thinks Al Gore will not be endorsing Hillary Clinton anytime soon.

[saracat]

1. Hillary supporter must be so proud! thanks Joe!

[pioneer111]

14. Yay. Lieberman hearts Clinton

This is the best endorsement Edwards had today!!!

[Hersheygirl]

22. A picture that speaks louder than words.

[rinsd]

2. Wow this smear by association has only been posted 3 times!

[MethuenProgressive]

3. It's all they've got. Let 'em pile on.

:insert Hillary Clinton's dismissive laugh here:

[Clintonista2]

4. Pretty ironic, considering Lieberman is Obama's mentor in the senate

http://vichydems.blogspot.com/2006/04/joe-lieberman-barack-obamas-mentor-in.html

[benny05]

9. I'd appreciate links

I tried to look before posting this story.

Nonetheless, let's examine the psychology and perceptions of this story.

1) Is it not true that many netrooters believe that Joe Lieberman should have not switched parties from Dems to Independents in order to further his ambitions when he lost to Ned Lamont in the primaries last year?

2) Is it not true that this is a payback to Clinton for supporting his campaign and for voting on his amendment?

3) Is not true that Lieberman backs Bush on the war?


So, if Clinton thinks this is a great association, which also means she's still trying to recover from last night and trying to act like she is already operating in the general election, she will have a time on her hands with the progressive wing of our party. Moreover, it paints her as too hawkish.

FWIW, I have no idea what Edwards thinks of this. But I do know he was the first to call and congratulate Ned Lamont when he won the primary, and came to help campaign for him as well.

Clinton is entitled to a couple of missteps in her campaign; she just didn't think the Kyl-Lieberman vote would hurt her. But the pile-on meme is ridiculous.

[rinsd]

13. Here's the other two...one of which has a similar subject header

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3669215

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3669211

[benny05]

15. Many thanks for the links

Sorry I missed them, but my post still stands. You were kind to respond to my request though.

[pioneer111]

16. Clinton DID vote for the Kyl-Lieberman amendment

did she not? He is returning the support. Clinton CHOSE to associate with Lieberman.

[bonito]

30. They both are Progressive Policy Institute

Same agenda read it for your self and defend the neocons if you want.
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1534

[CoffeeCat]

5. I'm not one bit surprised...

...those neocon warmongering freaks stick up for one another.

Does anyone really need anymore evidence that Hillary is a neocon?

DU has almost unanimously understood that Joe Lieberman is a warmonger.
When Hillary votes the same as Lieberman and speaks the same rhetoric,
somehow her supporters manage to look the other way.

Her supporters have looked the other way so many times, I can only
imagine the whiplash.

Now, Lieberman comes to her defense---because people are criticizing
HIS bill (that she voted for) which defines the Iran military as
a terrorist organization.

People are criticizing the bill because it is one more step toward
another lie-based, propagandized, unnecessary war for the neocons.

By defining the a branch of the Iran government as a "terrorist
organization", it not only allows war, but it practically mandates it.
That's all Bush needed--that formal definition of Iran as "terrorist
organization"--to do whatever the hell he wants to Iran, without asking
permission from anyone---not me, not you, not the Congress.

[Cha]

6. Anything that lieman is

for is automatically null and void..it also reeks of the smell of impending war as he licks his chops.

Ya got piled on, hillary..just like you piled on Kerry but hey..it's not all bad(for you)..the little warmongering, slobbering, lieman thinks you're great stuff.

[peacebird]

8. Hill and LIEberman are cut from the same cloth. Of course he supports her!

Happy Halloween, Hill, it must suck to be you and have someone who is radioactive to most progressives come out supporting you the day after your dismal debate performance!

:rofl:

[Cha]

26. "radioactive" to anyone with

a heart and a brain.

[AndyA]

7. Joe wants to be the Vice President.

Hillary, you owe him now.

And all the lobbyists.

And the big corporations.

What the hell, you owe everyone favors!

Vote Hillary 2008 for more of the same!!

[OhioChick]

10. Birds of a Feather Flock Together. n/t

[benny05]

11. Yeppers

Wonder what Ned thinks about it?

:bounce:

[applegrove]

12. Wow. The kiss of death. Why couldn't Lieberman just stay out of it.

[PatSeg]

17. Sorry Joe - not likely to happen

Lieberman acknowledged Tuesday that some senators don’t trust Bush, but said, “At some point, we’ve got to get over this distrust and partisanship.”

How can we get over "this distrust" of Bush???

[benny05]

18. I think Biden would agree on this one

Bad amendment.

[Catchawave]

19. I don't think this will help Hill on DU :( Or.....

Obama who supported Lieberman against Lamont?

:popcorn:

[Nutmegger]

25. You said it Catchawave!

Edwards came up here to campaign for Lamont, and was the first the call with his congratulations when we kicked that sorry repuke bastard LIARman out of the party.

[Bitwit1234]

20. Lord have mercy just saw a post above that Liberman trashed Obama

could you people get your trashing right...seems like you ALL trash Hillary. Damn it must be something to be so far ahead in the polls and in public opinion that the other candidates feel they must constantly and continually trash their candidates opponent. Hally lou jah. and Amen. SHE IS KICKING ASS GOOD AND HARD.

[benny05]

21. Last night was not her night

and these comments by Joe L are going to not be productive for the primary. She's operating too much in general election mode.

[mark414]

23. just like this administration provided ample evidence of Iraqi WMDs?

birds of a feather flock together - did anyone think that Lieberman would've endorsed any other Dem candidate? not a chance

[Mike03]

24. Jesus. This has really not been Clinton's week.

I feel really sorry for her.

[weeve]

27. Sorry Hillary ...

... I think I'll vote for a DEMOCRAT this time around.

[Basileus Basileon]

28. Christ, Joe. Way to help out.

*sigh*

[Alexander]

29. The Clintons said the Lamont-Lieberman race was "win-win".

Maybe they meant "win-win for us, but not for you".

[bonito]

31. Edwards is looking better all the time!