For you that think Edwards has changed, READ this

[surfermaw]

For me, the law is a sacred thing. And that is part of my life. I have seen what the law can do. It is a powerful, powerful thing. It can do extraordinary things for ordinary people. And I believe we have been given a sacred responsibility. I will tell you what that sacred responsibility means to me personally. It means that when I walked in here the first day of this impeachment trial I was 100 percent completely open to voting to remove this President


This was taken from a post just below...A post on how Edwards saved Clinton.

[MADem]

1. What point are you trying to make? nt

[Ninga]

2. The point is....that Edwards is smart, dedicated to doing the right thing, and had a value

as a Senator.

[surfermaw]

6. Ordinary people

do extraordinary things for (ordinary people, something, he has pushed since he went to the U.S.Senate.

[MADem]

11. See, it's a lousy post. I thought he was saying "That bastard Edwards wanted to hang Clinton!" nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. He Is Saying

If not for Edwards' lawyering Bill Clinton would have been convicted in the Senate on impeachment charges and removed from office...

That certainly requires the willing suspension of disbelief and indicates the absurd lengths some folks will go to bolster their candidate...

[Ninga]

5. That is what you are saying what he said not what he actually said.

[earthlover]

7. That is not my interpretation of his words....what part of his quote said THAT?

[MADem]

10. Lawyering? Edwards was not on Clinton's defense team.

If that poorly presented (no citation, no quote marks, no attribution) quote is from Edwards, all the man is saying is "Gee, here I am on the impeachment jury, of sorts, and I kept an OPEN MIND."

So how does that lift the guy up OR put him down?

That's rhetorical, my question --I don't expect you to answer it, as this isn't even your fight!

I just couldn't get where the hell the poster was coming from. Does he like Edwards, or hate him?

I kinda thought he was saying "See, Edwards is a bastard--he was ready to CONVICT Clinton!!!!"

This probably could win a contest for most poorly constructed and confusing opening post of a thread this week.

[earthlover]

3. I know this may be unpopular position here, but...

I think Edwards was 100% correct in his thinking. Obviously he voted against impeachment/conviction. However the founding fathers envisioned an impeachment based on a fair trial, not one based solely on party loyalty. The facts did not support conviction, so he voted no. It was the Republicans who brought about this farce by....party loyalty instead of looking at the facts.

I applaud a candidate who has shown the ability to take his constitutional duties to a fair trial seriously. Sorry to those of you who think he should have automatically rubber-stamped one way or other because of party.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. It Was A Partisan Impeachment

The math doesn't lie... Ninety eight percent of Dems* in the House opposed impeachment and one hundred percent of Dems in the Senate opposed conviction...





The Rethuglicans would have saved a lot of time if they just had an up and down vote and spared America the show trial...


* I think four out of two hundred and eight Democratic House members supported

[earthlover]

13. What is your point?

Edwards made the case that he had a constitutional duty to be impartial. He was. And he voted against conviction.

Yes, the impeachment was partisan. That does not mean that partisan is the way impeachments ought to be!

If more Republicans had the attitude of Edwards and at least tried to make an impartial judgement based on the facts and the constitution, then the vote would not have been close!

Unless you are arguing that we should be as partisan as the Republicans, I fail to see your point. I, for one, am proud Edwards saw the seriousness of the Constitutional matter and put the Constitution first.

[Life Long Dem]

8. I believe Edwards is saying he is for the rule of law.

Constitutional law. The same law that would apply to Clinton would apply to Bush as well.

[MADem]

12. I believe this would be a better topic with a cite, so that we could see what the poor man actually

SAID in context!!!!!

Most confusing topic of the week.

[Cameron27]

14. I don't think Edwards has changed at all.

That's the whole point of his campaign isn't it? Sudden transformational change?

[JDPriestly]

15. What post below are you talking about?