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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 01:21 AM
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Nader's Outsider Platform


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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 01:22 AM
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1. That sums it up.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 01:23 AM
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2. that says it all
I wish some enterprising journalist would look into Ralphie's finances. I have a rather strong feeling he's being helped along by someone in that other party.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 02:01 AM
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8. Time to bring up the Nader Skeleton Closet again
http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm

RALPH LIED and 500+ DIED!

Nader NO FRIEND of LABOR...

Busted a union among his workers:
Ralph talks big about democracy and even unions. But when his own workers at one of his magazines, Multinational Monitor, got fed up with cruel working conditions and started agitating for a union of their own, Nader busted the union with all of the hardball techniques used by corporate owners across America. Workers at Public Citizen, another Nader group, also tried to form a union because of 60 to 80 hour work weeks, salaries that ranged from $13,000 down, and other difficult working conditions and were blocked by Nader, who remains unapologetic to this day.

Nader says "I don't think there is a role for unions in small nonprofit 'cause' organizations any more than ... within a monastery or within a union."

When ringleader Tim Shorrock filed the union recognition papers, Nader immediately transferred ownership in the Multinational Monitor to close friends who ran an organization ("Essential Information") that Nader had set up. When Shorrock showed up for work the next day, he had been fired, the locks were changed, and management called the police to charge him with theft (of his own work papers.) That charge was thrown out of court, but management fired the two supportive editors and sued the three of them for $1.2 million, agreeing to drop the intimidation suit only when they dropped their NLRB complaint. All of these action are straight from the hardball anti-union playbook, and Nader makes no apology.

According to Nader, "Public interest groups are like crusades…you can’t have work rules, or 9 to 5." Shorrock, with his "union ploy," became an "adversary" according to Nader. "Anything that is commercial, is unionizable," but small public interest organizations "would go broke in a month," Nader says, if they paid union wages, offered union benefits and operated according to standard work rules, such as the eight-hour day. Remember that Nader's well-funded organizations were amassing tons of extra money that Ralph has been playing the stock market with during all these events.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 02:49 AM
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9. That's an admirable stance!
Supporting a union buster! Wow, I am in awe of my purist, progressive friends here at DU! Wish I could be so "liberal."

:eyes:
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 01:24 AM
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3. Your mission: to destroy the democratic presidental nominee!
your reward, an uber ego and $500,000 from the Republican Regime...


uhh oops

this needs to self destruct.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 01:28 AM
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4. come to think of it...
Why the heck is he getting a slot on Meet The Press? Has Kucinich ever been invited on the program? He's no more a serious candidate than Dennis, unless they want to benefit his spoiler role.
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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 01:33 AM
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6. I have been wondering the same thing.
Who gives a rat's ass what Nader has to say (again and again)? Of all of the people worthy of a MTP spot, Nader just doesn't rise to the top of the list. Send him to The Factor, or Deborah Norville.

Good grief.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 01:52 PM
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13. Dennis was on MTP once last spring, though he wasn't the featured
guest. He was on the show with Richard Perle. He said, very courageously, that one of the prime motivations for the war on Iraq had been OIL. Perle, who was sitting right next to him, immediately snarled, "What is your proof for that outrageous statement?!?" And Dennis, unfortunately, decided not to get down in the gutter to start mud-wrestling with Perle, so he didn't really hit back.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 01:29 AM
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5. Ouch!
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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 01:41 AM
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7. Totally...
I can't believe the gall of this man.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 03:07 AM
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10. Check it out!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 03:10 AM
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11. LMFAO!!! 110% Pure! LOL!
Great one! Love the halo too.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 01:42 PM
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12. Kick
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:36 PM
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14. kick
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