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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:51 AM Original message |
Kos: Zogby "interactive" polls are junk |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. yep. The money quote: "bullshit "electability" arguments against Hillary. |
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weeve (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. Agreed |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. disagreed |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. I don't always agree with Kos |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's only bullshit because you guys don't like the results. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. C'mon Katz..you weren't always so adverse to facts... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Do You Know The Difference Between A Probability And A Non Probabilty Sample? |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. I liked the results, but the poll is bullshit |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
30. It's not accurate |
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Mutineer (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. If they showed HRC beating the GOP she would be on the campaign trail |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. The Poll Is A Major Outlier |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. ...I'm off to read the comments at Kos on this which are sure to sound like pigs squealing |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
6. Zogby went on Joe in the Morning to say how awesome and reliable his polls are |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Since he uses these to 'sell' his services |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Online polls are always crap. I didn't believe the results, even though they |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. You are correct, dog nt |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm in the middle of a Zogby poll right now. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Could be a method used for skewing the polls.. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. You're insane if you believe that. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Multiple usernames... multiple email addresses... multiple responses |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Thanks, TK..I didn't see your response until after I posted mine.. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Incorrect |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Sorry you misunderstood |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. So, convince me.. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Doing A Poll Correctly Is Not Rocket Science |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. It's not the poll, per se.. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. The Problem Is It's A Non Probability Sample |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Not entirely true. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I Agree |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. I Thought About It |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Zogby also invites participants to ask a friend to sign up for |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. But culled phone lists are acceptable? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. No |
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Bo Bike (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. Hillary’s is targeted by the “Corporate Media” |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
18. But if they are junk, why has Penn requested most Zogby interactive polls than any other campaign??? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. ... according to John Zogby |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. You would think Penn would deny it if Zogby was lying. nm |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. it's entirely possible that he |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. umm campaigns collect all manner of info? How's that for a reason? |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. Because data wonks just can't help themselves |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. That's a good question. Kos didn't answer that question, did he? |
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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Clark, Zogby Interactive polls suck and you are on denial |
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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
43. Teamjordan, are you capable of thinking critically on your own? |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
44. K&R |
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