Hillary is winning 45 states on AOL poll.

[DurShar]

It is a online poll and online polls aren't the most reliable of source but most of the numbers are running consistent with recent poll numbers out of respective states.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/12/21/straw-poll-dec-21-jan-4/?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Just my 2 cents but I think this news sucks.

[Blue-Jay]

1. That poll also has Ron Paul winning for the Republicans.

:rofl:

[Hieronymus]

6. Bingo .. anyone in their right mind knows that Ron Paul won't win anything.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. National polls are meaningless; AOL polls are even more meaningless,

if that's possible.

[ElizabethDC]

3. Interesting

it does mirror the regular polls pretty closely, although online polls are obviously pretty self-selective by nature.

One thing that's interesting to note: Obama leads in Iowa in this poll, but it's still a very narrow race. Obama 31%, Clinton 30%, Edwards 24%. Very similar to the regular Iowa polls.

[Blue-Jay]

5. It does?!?

Wow.

[ElizabethDC]

8. Sorry, I was referring solely to the Democratic side of the poll.

I didn't look at the Republican results.

[Snotcicles]

4. AOL is still around? nt

[FogerRox]

7. Doesnt mean a thing.

First of all at this point pretty much any poll is about name recognition.

Secondly, Iowa is a caucus and it has never been easy to track Iowa with polls.

Thirdly Iowa looks to be between Edwards and Obama, If Hillary comes in 3rd or 4th in Iowa, she has to win in NH.

Fourthly, If Edwards wins Iowa and NH, its a whole new ballgame.

Fifthly, If Hillary loses Iowa and NH, shes got to comeback and dominate FL on the 29th and super tuesday on Feb 5th, a very tall order.

I'm pushing Edwards, Kucinich and Obama.

[ElizabethDC]

9. Why do you think that Iowa looks to be between Edwards and Obama?

:shrug:

[DurShar]

10. I think Hillary's campaign just made a very bad goof.

They are asking Iowa supporters to caucus on the wrong day. Even though it was probably fixed very quickly I am sure it lost a few caucus goers from the blunder.

[ElizabethDC]

18. Naw, just a minor faux pas. The cards were passed out at only one campaign event.

I'm sure that a)most Iowans who are involved enough to go to a political events probably also know when the caucuses are and b)these people have likely received more than one piece of campaign literature this election cycle and the Clinton campaign is likely to follow up with them, anyway.

So, the cards aren't likely to have a major impact. It's not like they were sent out all over the state.

[ClarkUSA]

22. How do you know it was only at one event? Does the campaign even know?

But yes, I'm sure all people will be properly notified before Jan. 3.

[ElizabethDC]

24. How do I know? I read the article about it. And, yes, the campaign knows, b/c they corrected it.

Here's the story from the Politico, which broke the story.

My sharp-eyed colleague Josie Hearn picked up this card at one of Bill Clinton's stops in Iowa yesterday, where others like it were being handed to Clinton supporters.

The error: The date on which supporters are urged to caucus, Jan. 14, is 11 days after the caucuses.

It appears to be an old card, printed well before the Iowa Democratic Party settled on the Jan. 3 date in late October. Josie e-mails that at Clinton's second event, the cards had Jan. 14 crossed out and replaced with the correct date.

link: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

[ClarkUSA]

27. The article does not say that specifically.

For all the campaign knows, it's been going on for awhile. Without Hearn to alert them, it would have continued to go on, presumably.
But it is improbable they'll miss any caucus goers what with their GOTV efforts and the local news blaring.

[ElizabethDC]

29. Theoretically, yes, it could have been happening

but I think someone - a staffer, a journalist, an attendee, would have noticed it before now. So, there's only evidence that it happened at one event. Some staffer probably grabbed a stack of old campaign lit at the office, and didn't look at them before handing them out.

Regardless, Iowans are pretty politically knowledgable and probably know when their caucus is.

[emilyg]

30. No big deal

They caught it in time.

[FogerRox]

13. Gut

[ElizabethDC]

19. Oh, good.

The Stephen Colbert approach to politics. Not that that's a bad thing.

[FogerRox]

33. Plus some indication of an HRC decline in some polling

In NJ the Star Ledger newspaper has actually started printing Edwards name, and more recently citing why Edwards can win in Iowa.

Plus some indication Edwards is going to benifit from being being everyones favorite second pick in the Iowa caucus, 1st round viability is 15%. If Kucinich is not 15% or better, his caucusers will choose another candidate, likely Edwards.

About NJ. Nearly everyone thinks HIllary has Nj sewed up. 3 weeks ago NJ DEms held a straw caucus, 200 participated. HRC, Richardson & Biden, lost in the 1st round, Kucinich lost in the second round. Obama lost to Edwards in the 3rd round.

A lot of these polls dont always start with a list like a voter list, a list of people who voted in the last 2 primaries. The 200 people who attended that NJ caucus were all hard core primary voters. Who hope to get out the NJ vote for Edwards on primary day.

See how Iowa goes, thats the first springboard.

[fenriswolf]

16. dont forget

#6 it's an aol poll.

[madrchsod]

11. looks like the hand writing is on the wall!

no need to resist

[Quixote1818]

12. And Ron Paul is winning most of the states in the Republican poll

Shows the poll is a piece of crap.

[ClarkUSA]

14. Looks like Hillary really is inevitable and will win in the biggest landslide since Nixon!

:D

[Quixote1818]

15. However, since Ron Paul is also winning most of the states

it looks to be a real nail biter between Hillary and Ron Paul. :rofl:

[ClarkUSA]

21. rofl

I was thinking the same thing earlier! Can you imagine the debates between these national AOL frontrunners?

:rofl:

[ileus]

17. I've said it b4, I'll say it again....she'll give us all 50 states in 2008.

[Carrieyazel]

20. Hillary would have a hard time winning 20 states in the general election.

This AOL poll is just laughable.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

23. This comment begs the question, how many states do you think Gore won?

Or Kerry?

I assume your comment is supposed to imply a blow-out loss, but you might want to change your talking point to, say, 15 states. Becasue of NY and CA, the winning margin for a Democrat less that 25 States.

Gore 20 + District of Columbia
(or, if one prefers... Gore 21 counting Florida + DC)

Kerry won 19 states + DC

If Kerry had won 20th State Ohio or Gore had won any 21st State (FL, NM, NH) each would have won.

[K Gardner]

25. For god's sakes people.. its an AOL POLL !! ROFL...

:nuke: :dunce:

[Kucinich4America]

26. AOL polls are owned by Freeper trolls

Hey that rhymes! Cool.

[ClarkUSA]

28. lol!

Cute.

[Bitwit1234]

31. Wait wait wait....the Obama Idolers are gonna get the Oprah poll

they always find some obscure piece of crap that has Obama out there.

[rufus dog]

32. who the hell has an AOL account?

[Elidor]

34. Everybody, please

If you know someone with an AOL account, teach them about real ISPs. They need an intervention. Friends don't let friends use AOL.

:D