Now that Joe Trippi has led two Presidential candidates to defeat...

[SaveElmer]

Will he be hired again at this level?

Why Edwards brought him aboard I'll never know!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Defeat? What defeat?

Edwards beat Hillary, didn't he? This isn't over yet.

[saracat]

2. Didn't Hillary come in third?

[SaveElmer]

5. WHat does that have to do with it...?

Are you predicting Edwards makes up 20 pts on Obama in the next 5 day sin New Hampshire?

[saracat]

17. I am done with it all so I make no predictions.

[Donnachaidh]

19. uh no dear -- the point is HILLARY LOST

Which means Trippi BEAT HER. :rofl:

Spin it anyway you want -- still comes up razzberries for y'all.

Smells like sour grapes in here. :rofl:

[SaveElmer]

22. So Edwards goal in this campaign was to beat Hillary?

Not win the nomination...?

If that is the case my criticism was unwarranted...and I apologize!

[SaveElmer]

3. It's over for Edwards...

And may be over for Hillary...

How exactly does Edwards parley defeat in Iowa into momentum for New Hampshire?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. With much less money and virtually no media coverage, he still beat Hillary.

Doesn't mean he'll win in NH, but there's no reason to count him out yet.

[SaveElmer]

15. Again...not about Hillary...

Unless Edwards goal in this campaign was to beat Hillary and not get the nomination...

Was that his goal?

[durtee librul]

4. Yeah, him and David Bonior make a good pair..n/t

[K Gardner]

6. Race. Not. Over. sheesh...

[OHdem10]

7. Edwards came in 2ond place.

[SaveElmer]

10. Eight points back in a state he had to win...big...

He now has no momentum and no money for next few contests...

[Donnachaidh]

23. sour grapes me bucko -- pure d sour grapes

Edwards wasn't the THIRD PLACE person. And NO concession was made.

[SaveElmer]

25. So was Edwards goal in this campaign to beat Hillary?

Not win the nomination? If that is the case I apologize for my comment...I had assumed Edwards was trying to actually be elected!

[lastliberalintexas]

LOL

I guess it's good to have DU comedy during the writer's strike.

[Renew Deal]

9. I don't think Trippi did everything he could with Edwards and Dean

There's no where to go with those guys except left.

[annie1]

11. Edwards is edwards, he did a great job. But there is a certain type of person...

that the people wanted. they wanted happy and hope, and that wasn't where edwards was at.

[saracat]

BS. It was about money.Pure and simple.

[Superman Returns]

31. tell that to Mitt Romney

his millions did crap.

[saracat]

35. But our "new" Democratic Party places even more emphasis on money and celebrity!

[lojasmo]

12. Trippi did not lead (s)Hillary's campaign. EOM

[stillcool]

13. I think he did a great job...

with the net-net roots and Howard Dean. I still don't understand what happened to Dean, but I certainly don't hold Joe Trippi responsible. Nor do I believe that Edwards is over, or that Joe Trippi was significant in the outcome of Iowa.

[Joe the Revelator]

14. I agree with you Elmer.

The night was a disaster for Edwards because, like you said, he has not money and now, no momentum. He was whooped tonight, and there is nothing thats going to help change that before New Hampshire.

[Donnachaidh]

16. feeling awful cocky -- wasn't it HILLARY that was defeated?

By Edwards?

She DID finish THIRD, right?

My my -- the spin never ends with the Hillaroids. :rofl:

[SaveElmer]

21. SO was Edwards only goal in this campaign to beat Hillary...?

He wasn't trying to win...?

He did get beat by Obama by 8% right? That's ok with you as long as he beat Hillary by .5%...

If so I apologize!

[KitchenWitch]

18. Don't even get me started on the tool that is Joe Trippi.

x(

[LittleClarkie]

20. Not defeated yet. It's only Iowa.

Give it a few more primaries

[MADem]

24. I got news for ya--don't look to Iowa as "The Deciders"

I don't remember much about Democratic Presidential nominees Harkin, Gephart, or "Uncommitted"--all chosen by the good people of Iowa over the years.

They very often get it wrong.

This is the opening salvo, not the end. Obama could win it, certainly, but don't close up shop and suggest the game is ended at this early stage of the game.

Save your ire for Trippi until after Super Tuesday. And who knows? You may be happy after that evolution...or maybe not.

[Kucinich4America]

28. I love it when people bring up Harkin and Gephardt as "examples" of how Iowa votes.

Harkin is FROM Iowa. Of course he's going to win there. Gephardt was from a neighboring state. Also a likely winner. It had nothing to do with the national race.

As for Trippi, I'm not crazy about the guy, after the way he bailed on Dean. But Edwards didn't lose this race

[MADem]

34. You're suggesting, then, that Obama only won because of the Gephardt effect, is that it?

After all, IA and IL are.... (drum roll)... neighboring states!!!!!

So, if he'd been from CA or NJ or TN, running the same campaign, he'd have finished at the back of the pack? It was just "neighborliness" at work?


And don't forget that Iowa selected President UNCOMMITTED for us, not once, but twice.

My point stands. IA misses as often as it hits.

[Comicstripper]

26. Do you know how presidential politics works?

At most, a successful campaign manager will produce ONE successful candidate in his lifetime (or, obviously, two if you include a successful re-election). Two losses is NOTHING in this world. There are plenty of respected campaign managers who have far more losses and zero wins.

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[mrgorth]

30. Agreed.

.

[SaveElmer]

32. Not as dumb as Edwards hiring Trippi...nt

[SoCalDem]

29. Hey.. he's working on the Bob Shrum Honorary degree

:rofl:

[venable]

33. joe trippi is one reason that edwards is still in this race nt

[mhatrw]

36. Trippi is fine for an insurgent campaign, but horrible for a front runner.

Considering Edwards' status in terms of corporate money and media dismissal, Trippi did a fine job.