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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:20 AM
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Exit poll: Edwards wins self proclaimed "conservatives," Obama wins everyone else
There are plenty of interesting results, but these stand out...

Edwards and Obama do much better than Clinton among Republicans,
Clinton and Obama do better than Edwards among Democrats,
Obama does much better than Edwards and Clinton with Independents.
Obama wins self proclaimed "very liberal," "somewhat liberal" and "moderate" voters while Edwards wins "conservative" voters.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#IADEM

vote by ideology
very liberal (18%) - Clinton 24, Edwards 16, Obama 40%
somewhat liberal (36%) - Clinton 25, Edwards 25, Obama 36%
moderate (40%) - Clinton 31, Edwards 22, Obama 33%
conservative (6%) - Clinton 22, Edwards 42, Obama 21%

vote by party ID
dem (76%) - Clinton 31, Edwards 23, Obama 32%
repub (3%) - Clinton 10%, Edwards 32%, Obama 44%
ind (20%) - Clinton 17%, Edwards 23%, Obama 41%

FYI, I like Obama and Edwards equally, and was rooting for Biden.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:21 AM
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1. fascinating stats
thanks for posting
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:22 AM
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2. Very interesting, thanks!
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:26 AM
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3. That's bizarre, because Edwards is radically left. Obama is the moderate and Hillary is quasi.
Edwards wants to take down the system and start over, not play footsie with Big Pharma and Big Insurance. He's your liberal, IMHO. And man, do I love him for it!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:27 AM
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5. Exactly, and that is why he would clean up in a General Election. nt
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:30 AM
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8. You hit it on the nose.
People relate to the solutions he is talking. Unfortunately more people like feel-good soundbytes.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:31 AM
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9. Preconceived notions, maybe?
A southerner cannot POSSIBLY be progressive?

Don't count on all voters being well-informed on the issues. Sometimes, they make assumptions about what politicians believe based on what they THINK their views are.

Plenty of people see, for example, Jack Murtha as this massive lefty because of his opposition to the war, when actually, he's a pro-military, right-to-life CONSERVATIVE Democrat.

You try to point that out, and they don't believe ya!!
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:27 AM
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4. Interesting, thank for posting
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:29 AM
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6. Not surprising
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 02:30 AM by maximusveritas
Why do you think Edwards does well in general election matchups?

Because people still think of him as the candidate in 2004, a conservative/moderate.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:30 AM
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7. Weird results -- the progressives and liberals I know would pick Edwards in
a heart beat over the other two.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:01 AM
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13. strange ain't it?
I think the corporate scum of America have really found our Achilles heel this time.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:33 AM
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10. He's naturally winning the working class social conservatives without pandering.
Obama is winning the buzzword college student progressives who don't understand labor issues because they haven't hit the workforce yet.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:49 AM
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12. O RLY?
My grandparents had five grandkids. We're all under 30. Three of us have college degrees, one of us probably isn't going to college, and one's still in college.

Of the kids who aren't in college, one of us is unemployed, one of us is a clerk for the county, one of us is a secretary for a nonprofit, and one of us is in the military.

You think young people don't know the realities of the workforce? :shrug:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:08 AM
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14. They don't call them the BOOmers for nothing.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:55 AM
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17. Interestingly, Edwards won 25% of rural voters, Obama 31%, Clinton 33%
Which is pretty good for all of them.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:23 AM
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21. He is not winning the working class, although he is winning conservatives
He won 32% of Republicans and 42% of conservatives, but only 23% of Democrats and 16% "very liberal."

The working class, no, he did not win, naturally or otherwise.

(10%) -$15,000 - Obama 37% (Clinton 30%; Edwards 17%)
(13%) $15-30,000 - Obama-Clinton 32% (Edwards 21%)
(18%) $30-50,000 - Obama 33% (Clinton 32%; Edwards 20%)


He didn't even win union households:

Clinton-Obama 30% (Edwards 24%)

The big labor candidate can't win union households with all the 527 money and big labor endorsements.

Get a grip with the spin already.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#val=IADEM
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:39 AM
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11. The general populace is vastly different from DU. Here's what I think:
Obama took the "very liberals" because he was against the war from the beginning. That's a big deal for them. He also got the young voters by a wide margin.

Edwards took "conservatives" because of his strong working class rhetoric. Most conservative Dems are socially moderate (pro-gun and kinda ambivalent about that abortion and gay rights stuff) but economically liberal. They want job protection and a strong social safety net and Edwards spoke to that.

Clinton got her support from seniors and people who were nostalgic for Bill.
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:51 AM
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15. and won a larger percentage of the rich vote, not the poor vote.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:53 AM
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16. these results are bizarre and counterintuitive
Are these caucus goers as clueless as the states make them look? And they are the politically sophisticated ones in Iowa? Any reasonably tuned-in voter can figure out that Edwards is the most liberal of the three, and Clinton the most conservative, but the idiot caucus voters seem to think its the opposite!:crazy:
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:02 AM
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18. it depends a bit on what you focus on i think
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 11:02 AM by Bodhi BloodWave
I'd fully agree Edwards is amongst the most liberal if we listen to rhetoric, however if we were to look at the record Edwards had in the Senate he falls fairly nicely into a more conservative mold in my eyes

It could be that a fair number of people believe/trust record over rhetoric
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:41 PM
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26. Edwards' record is definitely different than his 08 campaign
Overall, I think there are things that all of the candidates have that can appeal to progressives, moderates and conservatives. It looks like Obama has done a better job of connecting with a wider net of ideologies.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:27 AM
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22. Or maybe Iowa voters are shrewd and comparing Edwards version
04 with Edwards version.08. Maybe they don't trust him. Maybe they know about Fortress and maybe they think he's not for real.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:08 AM
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19. Very instructive. Thanks for the link!
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:21 AM
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20. These facts do not seem to stop people from claiming that edwards won among dems...*sigh*
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:27 AM
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23. It's amazing
I can't believe the outright dishonesty I'm seeing here. Edwards beat Clinton by about a half percentage point - IT'S A LANDSLIDE. :crazy:
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:29 AM
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24. I'm gonna get slammed for saying it, but Edwards won the Lou Dobbs Democrats
Obama won the progressive vote, hands down.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:30 AM
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25. Thanks for the stats
very interesting!
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