Hillary or Obama?

[jefferson_dem]

Poll question: Hillary or Obama?

A simple binary poll - Hillary or Obama?

[annie1]

1. HILLARRRRY!!!!!

[HughMoran]

11. Hi Larry!

:rofl:

[annie1]

14. LOL!

[JimboDem]

27. John Edwards!

:patriot:

[Egnever]

2. Such an easy choice

Obama I want open government not more of the backroom deals.

[lvx35]

5. What has Obama said about open government?

Out of curiosity?

[Pirate Smile]

7. Here one thing:

Obama's plan for open government

by kos
Wed Nov 14, 2007 at 08:45:55 AM PST

The geek in me loves this Obama proposal:

The full plan can be seen below. It contains several new proposals, including the appointment of technology czar called a Chief Technology Officer.

The CTO’s mandate would be quite different from the Cybersecurity czar appointed under the Bush Administration. Bush’s czar helped defend against cyberattacks. Obama’s CTO, by contrast, would ensure government officials holds open meetings, broadcast live webcasts of those meetings, and use blogging software, wikis and open comments to communicate policies with Americans, according to the plan.

The plan extends Obama’s previous advocacy for more open decision making in government <...>

I. OPEN GOVERNMENT

He wants Cabinet officials, government executives and rulemaking agencies to hold meeting that are open to the public and transmitted with a live feed. The CTO’s mandate will be to ensure this happens. Specifically, Obama wants the public to be able to comment on the White House website for five days before legislation is signed.

That would be cool.

Network Neutrality is also part of Obama's plan, but I'll defer to the experts on that issue to determine whether it's good approach or not.

IV. NETWORK NEUTRALITY

Obama also is supporting network neutrality, a policy that would ensure Google wouldn’t be forced to pay an Internet service provider extra to ensure the speedy transfer of its data over the Internet. Stanford legal expert, Larry Lessig, called me up this afternoon (apparently under recommendation from the campaign) saying Obama has the most nicely balanced policy among the democrats. Obama’s plan, he says, imposes minimal regulatory burden. So: Unlike John Edwards who, proposes to “enforce net neutrality ensuring no degradation or blocking of access to websites,” Obama would not ban differential service. He would simply require that the terms offered one website or company are no better or worse than those offered anyone else. This is a kind of “most favored nations” network neutrality, much simpler to enforce than one that looks to technical factors to determine whether the regulation is obeyed. Venture people should be very interested in this, Lessig says, because “if network neutrality regulation is going to be passed (as it will if a Dem is president) this imposes a very minimal (and relatively easy to monitor) burden on network owner.”

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/14/11406/032

[lvx35]

21. That's a strong Obama perk I didn't know about! Thanks for sharing.

the geek in me loves that too.

[Egnever]

12. His technology proposal is revolutionary ....

and would change america. If you really want to know you can read about it on his website.


But to save you the trouble of digging for open government stuff in the whole proposal heres some of it.The hole thing is really quite amazing and he has already started working towards it and through his work in the senate already we got this http://usaspending.gov/ . Not a bad start !

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/technology/

Open Up Government to its Citizens:

The Bush Administration has been one of the most secretive, closed administrations in American history. Our nation’s progress has been stifled by a system corrupted by millions of lobbying dollars contributed to political campaigns, the revolving door between government and industry, and privileged access to inside information-all of which have led to policies that favor the few against the public interest. An Obama presidency will use cutting-edge technologies to reverse this dynamic, creating a new level of transparency, accountability and participation for America’s citizens. Technology-enabled citizen participation has already produced ideas driving Obama’s campaign and its vision for how technology can help connect government to its citizens and engage citizens in a democracy. Barack Obama will use the most current technological tools available to make government less beholden to special interest groups and lobbyists and promote citizen participation in government decision-making. Obama will integrate citizens into the actual business of government by:

Making government data available online in universally accessible formats to allow citizens to make use of that data to comment, derive value, and take action in their own communities. Greater access to environmental data, for example, will help citizens learn about pollution in their communities, provide information about local conditions back to government and empower people to protect themselves.

Establishing pilot programs to open up government decision-making and involve the public in the work of agencies, not simply by soliciting opinions, but by tapping into the vast and distributed expertise of the American citizenry to help government make more informed decisions.

Requiring his appointees who lead Executive Branch departments and rulemaking agencies to conduct the significant business of the agency in public, so that any citizen can watch a live feed on the Internet as the agencies debate and deliberate the issues that affect American society. He will ensure that these proceedings are archived for all Americans to review, discuss and respond. He will require his appointees to employ all the technological tools available to allow citizens not just to observe, but also to participate and be heard in these meetings.

Restoring the basic principle that government decisions should be based on the best-available, scientifically-valid evidence and not on the ideological predispositions of agency officials.
Lifting the veil from secret deals in Washington with a web site, a search engine, and other web tools that enable citizens easily to track online federal grants, contracts, earmarks, and lobbyist contacts with government officials.

Giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days before signing any non-emergency legislation.

Bringing democracy and policy deliberations directly to the people by requiring his Cabinet officials to have periodic national online town hall meetings to answer questions and discuss issues before their agencies.

Employing technologies, including blogs, wikis and social networking tools, to modernize internal, cross-agency, and public communication and information sharing to improve government decision-making.

[lvx35]

19. That's really incredible stuff, thanks.

Of course he needs to understand the PROFOUND importance of security on any integration of technology in some of these ways, but if he does this stuff could be amazing, and move us forward a lot.

[Egnever]

25. Agreed

there will have to be a lot of thought on how he gets things into the light without affecting security but the groundwork on the plan is laid and I think if yopu look at his past record you will find it is something he has been fighting for for a while.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. shirley, ewe Geste!

[DemBones DemBones]

9. Is Shirley related to

Beau Geste?

:evilgrin:

[goldcanyonaz]

4. With Biden out, it's Hillary for me. Obama is my last choice. nm.

[annie1]

22. yay, 1 more for hil! right on.

[Kajsa]

6. Edwards.

n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

8. KUCINICH

:kick:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

10. H. Clinton is too corporate and she's too in favor of the war

Obama is less so. BUT I PREFER EDWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Double T]

13. Where's "Edwards"?

Is this poll sponsored by cnn?

[SunDrop23]

15. When the smoke clears, I vote for the candidate with the (D)...CMON DEMS! (n/t)

[yellowdogintexas]

38. ThankYOU! I am right there with you nt

[mcscajun]

16. I vote the Third choice; my vote goes to...

"I hate binary polls."

[IndianaGreen]

17. A no brainer! Obama!

No more Bush-Clinton dynasties, ever!

[sellitman]

18. Edwards!

Is it something I said? ;)

[LSK]

20. Present

Edwards

[toughboy]

23. Clinton, then Edwards

I am not an Obama supporter at this time. I hope not to be in the future, but we will all suffer setbacks and disappointments in the future so in November if it is Obama, then I'll do what I have to do. Hope solves the energy crisis, not any real problems. Clinton has both hope and experience needed to dig us out and recover America. So I'm still going with Clinton, then Edwards.

I was very proud to see all those Democrats caucasing in Iowa. I hope every young voter stays involved.

[emilyg]

30. Yeah! Welcome to DU

[Labors of Hercules]

24. Neither. Edwards. nt.

[Andy823]

26. EDWARDS!!!

[emilyg]

28. Hillary all the way!

[bobthedrummer]

29. Neither eom.

[TwilightZone]

31. 35% for Hillary? Wow, that's about double what I would have expected.

[jillan]

32. Totally, completely undecided.

[Midwestern Democrat]

33. Hillary vs. Obama?

First of all, congratulations to the Obama supporters.

I'm supporting Edwards until he drops out and I - for various reasons - have significant reservations about either Obama or Clinton, but if - and it appears extremely likely - it came down between Obama and Clinton, I guess I would have to follow Ulysses S. Grant's rationale for voting for James Buchanan over John C. Fremont - I would vote for Obama because I didn't know anything about the man and would vote against Clinton because I did know her.

[Beacool]

34. Hillary til the end!!!!!!!

:bounce:

[ButterflyBlood]

35. O-BAM-A! O-BAM-A! O-BAM-A! O-BAM-A! O-BAM-A! O-BAM-A!

n/t

[Seabiscuit]

36. Just like the MSM: it's all about #1 and #3. #2 doesn't exist when his name's John Edwards.

[greguganus]

37. I like to vote! eom