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DeadElephant_ORG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:28 AM Original message |
...just watched the Obama Iowa speech and I'm stunned... |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. Jimmy Carter uttered them more convincingly in 1976 at the convention. |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Are they? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. I thought he did better when he did that keynote a while back. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Jimmy Carter is his grandfather's generation. Barack Obama is now. |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. I think you're missing the point |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Carter turned his back on the |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. Also, Tom Dewey in '48 - |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
2. Me too! |
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Madam Mossfern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. I was moved by his speech at the 2004 DNC |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I liked it then too. But that was before Bush completely impoverished |
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DeadElephant_ORG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
37. agreed... he would never procecute Bush crimes. That's an issue for me. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Obama talks about this ripening request that some have..... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. Lacked the concrete. Lacked the spontaneous. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. What... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. ... |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I'm Barack Obama... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Edwards would have. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I've attended Obama and Edwards... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Edwards experience will stand him well in the debates with |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. But he was disappointing in his debate with 'Cousin' Cheney. |
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athena (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Obama writes his own speeches. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Edwards was a lawyer and is used to thinking quickly. |
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athena (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 05:11 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Obama is also a lawyer. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. All lawyers know the Constitution. I am a lawyer, and I know |
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athena (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Wrong again. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:30 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Obama doesn't say much about just what he did as a lawyer. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:32 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The article you cite shows Obama "practiced" maybe two years. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. How do you know Edwards doesn't use a speechwriter? |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. My husband returned from an Obama event... |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. My husband watched it tonight online |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. We caught it last night. I got goosebumps, Mr. H got misty-eyed. Dammit.... |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
7. good point - I shouldn't be so cynical |
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athena (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. It's funny. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. it is funny, but I'm not one to criticize a politician for being boring |
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athena (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I didn't mean you did this. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Obama's certainly a great speaker |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. That's why I like Edwards. He states the facts in an exciting way. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
11. It was historic. It will be remembered and referred to, just like his convention speech. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
13. That was a great speech...... |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. He was smelling victory tonight |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. And I hope he gets the victory he smells, and if he does, |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Woooot! GoBama! K and R |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
17. I used to say to Obama supporters: One good speech does not a President make |
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athena (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. He writes his own speeches. |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
20. my wife and I |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
22. Compare it to John Edwards' speech and see if you feel the same way. |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
24. Obama = "The Hallmark Candidate" or "The Oprah Candidate." |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
27. I thought it was amazing as well. |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
36. Anyone know if there is a High Definition Video of the Speech floating around |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
40. It reminded me of a sacrament in that by stating a truth, he brought |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Shared experience |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
43. I actually fell asleep towards the end of Obama's speech |
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DeadElephant_ORG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. I agree that "progressive will have to keep the pressure on him" |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
48. Congrats. Its a good feeling isn't it? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
49. His speech was transcendent. |
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