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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:26 AM
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Post-Iowa Blame Game Begins in Clinton Camp
Post-Iowa Blame Game Begins In Clinton Camp

New York Times   |   January 5, 2008 12:52 AM


Clinton advisers said Friday that they would not mount a negative advertising campaign against Mr. Obama in New Hampshire, saying the primary was too soon for such an onslaught to have any effect. And they said there were no plans to bring in new senior advisers to help right her campaign.

Yet no sooner had Mrs. Clinton finished her concession speech in Iowa on Thursday than second-guessing set in among her supporters.

One longtime adviser complained that the campaign's senior strategist, Mark Penn, realized too late that "change" was a much more powerful message than "experience." Another adviser said Mr. Penn and Mr. Clinton were consumed with polling data for so long, they did not fully grasp the personality deficit that Mrs. Clinton had with voters.

Advisers said that both Clintons had miscalculated the endurance and depth of what they called "the Obama phenomenon." They both believed that, in the final months of 2007, more voters would question whether Mr. Obama was ready to be president and more reporters would pick apart his political record and personal character. Now anger inside the campaign at the news media has hardened; Mr. Clinton, in particular, believes reporters will be complicit if Mr. Obama becomes the nominee and loses to a Republican.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/05/postiowa-blame-game-begi_n_79921.html


WTF? "they did not fully grasp the personality deficit that Mrs. Clinton had with voters."
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:29 AM
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1. Not going negative for all the wrong reasons
"the primary was too soon for such an onslaught to have any effect"

How about, "ethically questionable and just plain base"? :shrug:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:31 AM
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3. they appear to not have a clue that it might be about issues: Free Trade & Corporatism
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:31 AM
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2. H. Clinton has been ignoring the issues of those suffering the most....
... she needed to have stopped smiling and laughing so much in public, and needed to get serious about the poor, the homeless, the helpless, women raising children alone, the ill, the weak, the dark-skinned, the disabled, physically and mentally, the lower middle class, the working poor, the Iraq veterans, children's needs, the lack of medical care, the funneling of the middle class' tax dollars into the pockets of Cheney and Haliburton, the need for impeachment of these a-holes, the need to do away with free market agreements, and the essential need to stop allowing corporations to feed off the public trough.

Instead, she smiled, laughed a lot, behaved powerfully, did not mind being photographed with free market people, lobbyists and corporate bigwhigs (who got the weakest of this country into horrible financial situations). I guess she forgot that the helpless and moneyless could vote too?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:39 AM
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4.  Holding a "Rural Americans For Hillary" event @ DC Lobbyist form for Monsanto
Do the Clinton folks really think the American people won't see through this? I find it very condescending:


Yee-haw

October 18, 2007 10:06 AM

So later this month, according to THIS INVITATION, the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, is holding a "Rural Americans for Hillary" lunch and campaign briefing at the end of this month….

..but she's holding it in Washington, DC….

…at a lobbying firm…

… and specifically, though it's not mentioned in the invitation, at the lobbying firm Troutman Sanders Public Affairs…

…which just so happens to lobby for the controversial multinational agri-biotech Monsanto.

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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2007/10/yee-haw.html
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:40 AM
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5. OH MY GOD. It's kinda like a king holding an audience for the peasants one day of the year. nt
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