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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:33 PM
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CNN/WMUR No Bounce
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/CNNWMUR_No_bounce.html

CNN/WMUR: No bounce


I got an early look at the CNN/WMUR poll taken Jan. 4 and 5, and contrary to conventional wisdom there is not much bounce for Obama.

Here are the numbers:

Clinton 33 percent

Obama 33 percent

Edwards 20 percent

Clinton has lost 1 point and Obama has gained 3 since the last poll, but there is no significant movement in a poll that is likely to set the tone for the next few days of coverage.

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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:36 PM
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1. uh huh.
So you are ignoring other polls, like Rasmussen, showing a big bounce?

Okey dokey.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:36 PM
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2. And ARG
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:45 PM
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8. first of all, the OP is quoted in full
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 05:45 PM by OnTheOtherHand
which is not great form, but hey, this is what it is. "No bounce" is a silly headline: the poll shows a possible small bounce (ETA: maybe bigger, maybe nothing -- the sample is too small to say).

The blog item has also been revised to cite another poll (Concord Monitor/Research 2000) that also shows Obama and Clinton very close (34/33).

ARG and Rasmussen give Obama double-digit leads.

Given the small sample sizes and all the difficulties reaching people and the fact that a lot of them don't yet know what they think, we might have enough info to make sense of this by, oh, Tuesday night or so.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:36 PM
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3. There will be a bounce.
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 05:39 PM by Drunken Irishman
Some polls have shown it, others have not. But I bet by Tuesday, Obama will be up 7+. Bookmark this, do whatever you want, but this is what I believe.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:38 PM
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4. if her performance today is any omen,
she is not exactly riveting the crowd.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:41 PM
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6. Maybe because people aren't looking to be excited. They're looking to be EDUCATED.
And they are LISTENING as she answers their questions and explains her policy positions.

Geez.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:40 PM
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5. Is this a poll of registered Democrats only? nt
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:43 PM
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7. I heard WMUR is a conservative outlet and its now the Clinton New Network
They had an outlier poll showing her way up before
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:50 PM
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10. "outlier poll"
If you mean the one in mid-December, ARG looked pretty similar. And the more recent poll was in line to low-side.

Polls bounce around, and it is very hard to poll in December for an early-January first-in-nation primary.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 06:14 PM
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13. WMUR used to be very conservative, but was bought-out by Hearst-Argyle.
WMUR used to be very conservative, but was bought-out by
Hearst-Argyle, the same folks that own WCVB, Boston TV-5.

They're now pretty middle-of-the-road typical "centrist"
MSM, whatever that means nowadays.

Tesha
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:49 PM
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9. Thats the best Edwards margin I can recall
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby survey has HRC up 4 pts.

http://cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000002652113
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:54 PM
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11. heh, funny you say no bounce, but CNN is calling it a bounce for Obama & Edwards.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:59 PM
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12. be wary of NH polls
I don't know who is doing the WMUR poll - but WMUR is the next best thing to GOP TV. If it has anything to do with UNH pollster Andy Smith - let's just say that Andy called 2006 so wrongly that I can't believe anyone listens to him any more.

The Rasmussen poll was done last night - they called me. They asked if I was a Republican or a Democrat. It seemed unbiased, and all of the candidates were mentioned. (unlike other polls that have tried to limit choices)

This ain't Iowa, people. Stop expecting it to be.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 06:41 PM
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15. This isn't really true since they were bought out.
> I don't know who is doing the WMUR poll - but WMUR
> is the next best thing to GOP TV.

This isn't really true since they were bought out (see
my reply above). We used to call them WGOP, but today,
they're pretty much ordinary.

Tesha
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:31 PM
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17. slightly better
I don't see a huge difference (they don't cover activist events at all) but you're right, it's slightly better.

They've moved from far right to center right.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 06:15 PM
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14. No bounce? You wish. According to the write-up...
“Both Obama and Edwards appear to have benefited form the Iowa caucuses. Each picked up 3 points in New Hampshire. Clinton lost one point, since our last poll taken before the caucuses,” says CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/05/tight-race-in-new-hampshire-post-caucus-poll-shows/
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 06:42 PM
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16. And Obama picked up 13 points on electability
Clinton dropped 9. I call it a bounce.
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