There Are 22 Names on the NH Dem Ballot, Why Isn't Kucinich Lobbying to Have Them All Included?

[tritsofme]

in the debate tonight?

What makes Kucinich more important than the other 17 Democratic candidates that are also being excluded by ABC?

If its any solace to Kucinich supporters, I think Richardson should take his VP audition act elsewhere as well.

[davidinalameda]

1. because he is more important

at least in his own mind

[cyclezealot]

4. you are redicilious.

It takes a second to nominate even a high school class president. In a nation of 300 million you need more than a second. The Kucinich lawsuit against ABC news states, ABC CEO's contributions to Kucinich's primary opponents constitutes a company endorsement, considering the exclusion. Also, Kucinich was the only candidate excluded who qualifies for Federal Matching funds from the FEC. That is a damn good qualifing point. Demonstrating a decent base of contributions to qualify for federal matching funds should be more than sufficient proof. / Its just you are corporate toodies and don' t even realize it.

[tritsofme]

9. Maybe they would qualify for matching funds if the corporate masters didn't silence them

If the media didn't conspire against these brave Democratic candidates from New Hampshire perhaps they would have a chance!

[cyclezealot]

14. I'd like to be up there to challenge

those who accept the corporate war chest. Maybe I put $5000 in a campaign chest for myself to be president , I might be invited too. I think the FEC is a good decider.

[tritsofme]

17. Isn't your FEC qualifier just as subjective as ABC's qualifier based on the viability

of the candidate?

You have to thin out the pack at some point, and it is far past time to do so.

[cyclezealot]

25. No.

It sets a federal standard as to who raises enough cash to get Federal Cash. I think that is a darn good qualifier who is a worthy candidate . Once that status is atained, I say the networks have no right to **** with us.

[Bluebear]

28. ("redicilious"???)

[davidinalameda]

34. my favorite was toodie

wasn't she on the Facts of Life

[davidinalameda]

31. I'm a redicillious corporate toodie

wow

wonder if I have to tell my parents about that

[cyclezealot]

32. At one time the FCC charter said TV serves the public's

interest. They allow Richardson, Paul, Keyes, Hunter to talk. But, not Kucinich. Their inconsistencies. Any fair minded person could see that and ask why. Richardson only polled 2% in Iowa. Why did he get a chance to talk. You let them get away with such unfairness, I think I picked my adjective fairly.

[davidinalameda]

33. you may pick them fairly

but learn how to spell them

[Occam Bandage]

2. Because they're not Dennis Kucinich. Duh.

[2rth2pwr]

3. It's all about the Kooch. nt

[fascisthunter]

5. Why Should "HE" Represent all 22 Names? Why NOT any Others?

Isn't it their own responsibility to make an issue of it? Why do you focus on Dennis and not the others who have been included in the debate. How do you REALLY feel about 22 names being left out? What is your agenda?

[tritsofme]

6. All of the minor dead end candidates should be excluded IMO

Including Kucinich and Richardson.

My agenda is having a substantive debate without wasting time on candidates that have no shot at the nomination.

[fascisthunter]

7. WRONG... Your AGENDA is to Exclude Candidates because it HELPS your particular candidate

Not because you want a "substantive" debate.

[tritsofme]

10. Hahaha

Sorry, I don't think Kucinich poses any threat to Senator Clinton.

My agenda is to have a real debate, sans the just for fun candidacy of Dennis Kucinich.

[fascisthunter]

13. It Highlights How LITTLE YOU RESPECT the DEMOCRATIC PROCESS

and your laughing exposes your arrogance and lack of substance. In fact, you needed to take a "personal" shot which says even more about how weak your point of view really is.

I KNOW YOU ARE THREATENED by someone like Kucinich or you wouldn't need to post intellectually dishonest crap like this. Very UNdemocratic elitest attitude you have towards other candidates and their supporters. Do you think it helps your candidate? And who is your candidate anyway?

Try not to be so dismissive and arrogant, it weakens your point of view substantially.

PS - money and media exposure can BUY votes. It still doesn't mean a candidate is strong. It means the opposite in reality.

[tritsofme]

16. Does not including all 22 Democratic candidates for President also constitute disrespect for the

democratic process?

Or does that only happen when we exclude Kucinich?

[fascisthunter]

20. Yes It Does, But for Some Reason You Seem Pleased With It As Is

This 22 other candidates not being in any debate isn't Kucinich's responsibility as you are disegenously trying to paint it. This is about PEOPLE LIKE YOU who don't want a real democratic process.


See, you are pissed that Kucinich would even complain. That's why you posted this tripe! All other candidates are more than welcome to do the same as Kucinich and he isn't going to prevent them, nor is he going to give them shit for complaining about corporations warping our democratic system, as you are.


YOU WANT THIS. Dennis doesn't. Nor do I. Nor would MOST Americans who believe in a REAL DEMOCRACY. You don't want a REAL Democracy, maybe because your candidate would lose if their were one? Hmmmmmmm.....

So, who is your candidate? It would be revealing to me and others here to know who some like you might be voting for.

[tritsofme]

24. My candidate is Senator Clinton

However being from Illinois I would be more than happy to cast another ballot for Barack Obama.

[Kucinich4America]

27. Then why don't we exclude Hillary as well?

She came in third in Iowa. Obviously she's done.

(Or so everybody said about Howard Dean after Iowa in 2004, right?)

[fascisthunter]

29. Not Surprised at all.

The most corporate of them all. Bought and paid for with very little integrity left. Yes, she would benefit from an undemocratic process, she has to. Do you suppose she would have been noticed by Americans if her last name was something other than "Clinton"? Or if she got as much media time and money as all other candidates?

So, will she do well for the average (you know... We little insignificant people) or do more for Corporate America? After all, she must pay all that payola back some how. I'd assume she would believe sucking up to power and wealth will help trickle some of that down to us "little" people. So in her mind. it's all "justified".

"Democracy" is a clever term to use for taking down a dictator in a foreign country. It worked well for the US invading Iraq, but doesn't seem to mean much to some Democrats within the Democratic Party in our own country. I thought that was only so for the GOP, but I was wrong a several years back.

One thing I would never do, is get mad at her for being left out of that democratic process, regardless because I am a Democrat.

[LoZoccolo]

26. That is what Dennis wants when he excludes the other 14 or so candidates. n/t

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[Webster Green]

15. You think the debate becomes more substantive by excluding Dennis?

That's nuts! :rofl: He surely expands the discussion, and he makes more sense than any of them.

That's why his message is being silenced by the corporate propaganda machine.

[no name no slogan]

18. "Substantive" debate LMFAO

You're NOT going to see a "substantive" debate in 90 minutes of a narrow spectrum of the field rattling off their talking points like an infomercial.

This thread just goes to show how little you care about "real" debate and how much you like dog shows.

[msongs]

8. because he is only responsible for himself? stupid question. nt

[Forkboy]

11. You should change the "s" in your nic to an "e".

[Renew Deal]

12. Is the Ham guy on the ballot again?

[LoZoccolo]

19. Recommended! Why Dennis and not Ole Saviour? n/t

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[no name no slogan]

22. Score one for Oasis

[riqster]

23. If the other candidates are pissed, they can do the same thing.

Kucinich has been effectively and systematically marginalized by the Dem Establishment and the MSM.

Evidently, it is a crime to be a liberal Dem these days.