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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:40 PM
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"Where is The Bounce?" - - How big of a bozo is Mark Penn?
Remember this? --

Where Is The Bounce?
by Mark Penn, Chief Strategistin New Hampshire1/5/2008 5:13 PM

Two polls that had the race within a few points before the Iowa caucuses have the race tied after the Iowa caucuses.

In today's CNN/WMUR poll, Hillary Clinton and Senator Barack Obama are tied at 33 percent -- their last two polls had Hillary up 4 points and before that had Hillary down 2 points, so there is no statistically significant change in their numbers before and after the Iowa caucuses.

And the Concord Monitor is out as well today with a poll showing the race at 33 percent for Hillary Clinton, 34 percent for Barack Obama, and 23 percent for John Edwards -- exactly the same margin as before Iowa.

Contrast that with the 17 points John Kerry gained in 2004 in the Boston Globe poll, which catapulted him from a 17-point deficit to a 20-point lead in New Hampshire after the Iowa caucuses. Or with the 7 points Al Gore gained in 2000 in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, increasing his lead in New Hampshire from 5 points to 18 points.

New Hampshire voters are fiercely independent. They will make their own decisions about who to support.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/blog/view/?id=20479
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:41 PM
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1. I'm glad Mark Penn is not running the Obama campaign
that's all I'm going to say about him. And pretty much all that deserves to be said about him.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:43 PM
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2. Seriously, I feel bad for Hillary that this guy is running her campaign. nm
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:44 PM
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4. running or ruining?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:22 AM
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23. either.
same shit in, same shit out.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:43 PM
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3. Wow, the HillBlog
You're a braver man than I, JD.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:22 PM
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14. Not that brave, actually.
I'm simply piggy-backing on Josh Marshall -- http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/062815.php
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:25 PM
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15. It's over at Kos, too
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:45 PM
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5. Ya know something ...
you gave me the biggest complement on Thursday and I respect you for that. But .... I don't know this just sucks.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:47 PM
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6. That was before the debate, when she was coming off her win in Iowa
Oh wait.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:49 PM
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7. Well, considering the two new polls showing a 13 and 10 point lead, I would say YEEESSSS!!!
This guy is a dipshit.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:50 PM
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8. Stupid idiot.......nt
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:52 PM
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9. He's really batting a 1000
First the DMR poll stymied him and now the Bounce, poor guy.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:53 PM
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10. I see Wiley Coyote hovering wa up in the air just before he disappears into a distant poof
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 07:53 PM by cryingshame
on the ground
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:59 PM
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11. Gees...where is the hillary herd with its polls to let us know about? sorta silent herd these days
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:00 PM
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12. It kinda looks to me like there's a concerted focused effort on Attacking Edwards today..
lucky you guys.. you get a bit of a break. They must see Edwards as an easier target right now :-)

Enjoy the peace while it lasts ! :toast:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:04 PM
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13. We're getting out of they way of your circle jerk.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:25 PM
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16. Too gloaty, ronny?
Perhaps you're right. Thanks for the "reality check". Seriously.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:32 PM
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17. Love ya!!!
smooches!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:56 AM
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18. He ain't no bozo--he's a vile, amoral shitstain
Union-busting? The Saudi Royals? The genocidal Indonesian military dictatorship? Blackwater? Aquadots? His presence in the Clinton campaign is the single biggest reason not to support her.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:40 AM
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19. Should be Bedtime for


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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:33 AM
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20. Now we know: winning doesn't make Obama people any less shitty.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:34 AM
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21. Ooh, another one!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:47 AM
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22. And I quote: "He's a vile, amoral shitstain."
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