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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:40 PM
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Obama to act against outsourcing jobs
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:40 PM by OhioChick
Friday, January 4, 2008 (New York)
Illinois Senator, Barack Obama, who took many by surprise by winning the Iowa Democratic caucuses on Thursday night, promised to act against those companies who outsource jobs from America.

''I'll be a president who ends the tax breaks for companies that ship our jobs overseas and put a middle-class tax cut into the pockets of working Americans who deserve it,'' Obama said in his victory speech.

Amidst applause and cheers from his supporters, soon after the results of Iowa Democratic caucuses were declared, Obama said: ''We are choosing hope over fear. We're choosing unity over division, and sending a powerful message that change is coming to America.''

His speech could remind many of the last presidential election when outsourcing of jobs to countries like India was a major issue especially by the then Democratic candidate John Kerry, who lost narrowly to George W Bush in 2004. So far outsourcing of jobs has not become an election issue, which is more so dominated by the war in Iraq and other domestic issues like health care.

Obama, who would be the first black president if elected in the November elections, interestingly has not been able to garner much support among the Indian-American community, which so far has overwhelmingly supported the former First Lady and the New York Senator, Hillary Clinton.

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080037694&ch=1/4/2008%2012:01:00%20PM

I'd like to hear more from all of our candidates regarding outsourcing.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:45 PM
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1. Please-
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:46 PM by waiting for hope
That's another steal from Edwards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNhwar3om44

http://www.johnedwards.com/issues/working-families/20070825-nh-tour-trade/

On Day Three Of The 'Fighting For One America' Bus Tour, Senator John Edwards Discusses His Plan For A New Direction In Trade And Economic Policies To Reward Work And Put Families -- Not Corporations -- First

Aug 25, 2007

John Edwards outlined his agenda to put our economic and trade policies back in line with American values, and back on the side of regular families. To create One America where everyone's hard work is rewarded and families can build a better life, he will:

Enact Smarter Trade Policies: Trade deals need to make sense for American workers, not just corporations. Trade agreements like NAFTA and the WTO include special privileges for corporations, such as strong remedies for commercial rights and unprecedented rights to challenge environmental and health laws.

Insist on Benefits for Regular Families: Edwards believes that the true test of a trade deal is not its reception on Wall Street or contribution to the gross domestic product. Instead, his primary criterion for new trade deals will be simple: considering its impact on jobs, wages and prices, will it make most families better off? He rejects President Bush's use of trade agreements to encourage countries to support his foreign policy, rather than to strengthen our economy.

Demand Strong Labor Laws: Edwards believes that all of our trade partners should be required to enforce at least the core labor rights defined by the International Labor Organization: the right to organize and bargain collectively and prohibitions against forced labor, child labor, and discrimination.
Require Environmental Standards: Edwards supports strong environmental standards so multinational companies cannot profit by exploiting weak environmental laws and enforcement in some countries. For example, after the U.S. has capped its greenhouse gas pollution as Edwards proposes, trade policy could be used to encourage similar commitments by other nations.

Eliminate Tax Incentives to Move Offshore: The U.S. tax code encourages multinational corporations to invest overseas by allowing them to indefinitely defer taxation on their foreign profits. In some cases corporations actually receive subsidies to invest overseas through a "negative tax." Edwards will eliminate the benefit of deferral in low-tax countries, ensuring that American companies' profits are taxed when earned at either the U.S. rate or by a foreign country at a comparable rate.

Revamp Trade Assistance and the Safety Net to Help Dislocated Workers and Communities: Americans today are more likely to lose their jobs and less likely to receive unemployment benefits. For too long, the federal government has stood by while plant closings devastate entire towns. Edwards will fight for these workers and their communities, by modernizing unemployment insurance to cover 500,000 more workers a year and creating a new "Training Works" initiative tied to high-wage jobs. He will help communities recover quickly from mass layoffs with better advance warning and more resources to shore up the local tax base, plans for attracting family-sustaining jobs, and help for local businesses.



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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:48 PM
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2. Thanks for Posting...
Edwards is my man. :thumbsup:
I'd like to hear from the other candidates in detail what they intend to do about this shitty economy, as well as outsourcing, NAFTA, CAFTA, etc.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:57 PM
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3. dupe
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:59 PM by bellasgrams
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:57 PM
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4. I have heard Hillary also talk about bringing back jobs,etc
So now do we have to fight over who said it first?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:59 PM
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5. I Already Heard Where HRC
Stands on this issue......and "I" don't believe she's in favor of bringing jobs back.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:15 PM
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6. Hillary supports outsourcing of jobs to India
She has large support from the Asian Indian community.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:54 AM
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8. She Sure Does. n/t
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Ineedchange Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:25 PM
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7. Hillary will never ditch NAFTA and out sourcing
GHWB started the fight for NAFTA and Bill Clinton signed it into law.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:09 AM
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10. Who in turn stole it from Kucinich, who was against NAFTA when Edwards was for it
You see? Keep on yelling about your populist issues, and everybody moves your way eventually. Glad to hear this from Obama, but Kucinich and Edwards should STILL not lay off.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:04 AM
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9. Senator & Mrs. Barack Obama have become wealthy “playing the system” in Chicago
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 08:06 AM by indimuse
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT IN THE BEST INTERSET OF AMERCIA AND ESPECIALLY POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS...WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE..?




Obama Week: Part Two Mr. & Mrs. Obama Profiteering From Poverty



(CHICAGO)(FEBRUARY 8, 2007) The late Chicago columnist Mike Royko used to say that the motto of the City of Chicago should be “Ubi est mea?” (“Where’s mine”) to reflect the fact that Chicago was a city quintessentially built on greed, not public service.



Mike Royko, meet Barry and Michelle Obama.



Senator & Mrs. Barack Obama have become wealthy “playing the system” in Chicago, and playing up their own bank balances. Now Barack (“Barry O”) wants to be president. In a “bid’em high” contest with Hillary Clinton and John Edwards, Obama proposes free health care for everyone: Obamacare.



It might behoove us to see how the Obama family has become wealthy at the expense of their “community.”



Mrs. Michelle Obama is paid a third of a million dollars a year to serve as “Vice President of External Affairs” at the University of Chicago Hospital on the city’s South (and poor) Side.



What is it exactly that Michelle Obama does to merit being paid a third of a million dollars every year? Like her erstwhile husband, who claims he came to Chicago to be a “community organizer,” and never successfully organized anything but his own personal wealth, Michele Obama essentially does nothing for her cool third-of-a-million. She, too, is also an “organizer.”



The reason health care in America is so expensive today is because we have allowed racial and political hucksters such as the Obamas to get rich exploiting poverty and the poor. The Obamas manage to use societal guilt to pyramid their own economic success and self-importance. They are quick to play the race card to improve the balances on their cash card.



Mrs. Obama has a law degree from Harvard. Why would she want to be engaged in superintending “community affairs” when she could practice law? Because “community affairs” is where the money’s at, goofy.



Mrs. Obama’s salary has gone from approximately $50,000 in 1999 to over $300,000 after her husband was elected senator. What does she do for that money? Well, according to the Chicago Tribune, Mrs. Obama is in charge of “women and minority vendor purchases, rejuvenation of volunteer program” and a “collaborative effort” with South Side clinics to provide care for low income residents. Three hundred thousand dollars a year for that? Good work if you can get it. And good luck.



If you’re sick, do you really need “outreach” to find the nearest hospital? Not really. People know where to do to find emergency treatment, a community clinic, a doctor.



So Mrs. Obama is not saving lives, working in an “ER” or contributing anything positive to the medical environment on the Southside of Chicago. Instead of being a part of the solution, she’s part of the problem. If Senator Obama wants to find out why “health care” costs so much today, all he has to do is roll over in bed and talk to his wife. Barry, ask Michelle a few questions, painful as that may be to your bank balance.



Mrs. Obama used to work in a law firm. But at law firms actually have to work to get paid. Nonproductive people are weeded out. In “community service” organizations such as hospitals we have tolerated the creation of bureaucracies of highly paid people such as Mrs. Obama who produce nothing and contribute nothing to health care—except the improved health of their own bank balances.



Again according to the Tribune, the University of Chicago Hospital has approximately 17 “vice presidents” earning in the third-of-a-million-dollar range. What is Obamacare going to do about this kind of payroll padding that inflates health care costs? Add more people, more “community organizers,” more Obamas.



Hospitals used to be charitable institutions. Doctors would treat the indigent as well as the wealthy. It was not a perfect system but then we don’t live in a perfect world. Then the “poverty pimps” arrived. Or “poverticians” if you prefer. “Poverticians” became part of the medical landscape as part of the civil rights revolution.



Former New York Mayor Ed Koch described poverticians as people who got rich from poverty, people who made fat, easy livings profiteering from racial guilt and fears of community rebellions. A little mau mau action (ah, those Kenyans again). A little Jesse Jackson give-my-family-and-friends a franchise to get wealthy or we'll shut you down on Thursday action. In short a “reverence” for personal profit instead of community progress. In short, Mayor Koch was describing Michelle Obama.



She contributes nothing to health care except increasing the cost. She collects a third of a million dollars—tripled since Obama was elected to the U. S. Senate—to “reach out” to people who are desperate for medical attention and supposedly can't find treatment due to the “high cost of health care,” in reality due in large part to the fact that “health care” supports nonproductive people like Michelle Obama.



The health care system is “high cost” because it supports lavish lifestyles of people such as the Obama family who consume mightily and contribute nothing to the healing process.



So if you are happy to have the Obamas become rich profiteering from poverty, meet Obamacare. Obamacare would deliver “free” health care to the masses. But such treatment is available today. Obamacare would substitute today’s admittedly imperfect system for a perfect system of racial and community profiteering. We would have more people earning huge salaries to engage in “outreach” and “community development.” Nothing would change in the operating room but everything would change in the operators’ living rooms through the addition of more well-paid parasites that did nothing but get rich from doing nothing.



As I constantly like to remind people who are mesmerized by Barack Obama, what did he ever “organize” in Chicago? A strike? Heaven forefend. A successful community movement? Nope. He organized nothing except his own self-advancement. The poor that Obama claims to have organized are still poor and still there where he found them decades ago.



Now there is nothing wrong with wanting to be rich, and succeeding; but please don’t tell me you were organizing the community when you were only organizing your own financial enrichment.



I want to be clear that that I am not saying that the Obamas are bad people. On the contrary, they are good people. They seem like a charming couple. But the “Godfather” would understand the financial reality of using race to get rich. The Obamas trained learned law school to use briefcases instead of legal briefs to advance themselves into the realm of the rich and famous.



We all want to achieve the American dream: a fancy home financed in part by someone such as Illinois’ sleazy Tony Rezko at taxpayer expense. A job where you show up and collect a cool third-of-a-million for doing nothing and contributing nothing except serving as an ornament to our societal stupidity and guilt. Today, “wealth” is being created by public agencies that bemoan “high costs” while they support 17 “ vice presidents” doing nothing.



Obama organized his resume as a “community” worker to catapult himself into Harvard Law School, then “public service” in Chicago. First he padded his resume; then he padded his bank balance. Then his wife padded hers. Ubi est mea.



Or, as Pogo would say to Barack and Michelle, “We have met reason for high cost health care; and it’s the Obama Family.”



But don’t say, “Physician, health thyself,” because the Obamas are lawyers, not doctors. Indeed. the last thing we need in hospitals is more lawyers. But that’s what “Obamacare” would provide. And Obamacare has already provided well for the Obama family.



Mr. Royko, “Ubi Est Mea” it is. And Mr. Obama and Mrs. Obama have found their “mea” getting rich off the poor. Nice work if you can get it. Code Blue anyone?



Friday: IS OBAMA A “CHRISTIAN?”



Saturday: BARACK (BARRY) OBAMA: A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE.

SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW ME THE CHANGE!!!!!!
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