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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:03 AM
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Why Obama's bipartian appeal is compelling and perhaps fundamentally necessary
I think it is fair to conclude at this point that a Hillary victory in november would not be bipartisan and certainly would be hard fought.


An Obama vicory conversley would have substantial bipartisnan support. While I recognize the downside of that on a domestic policy side, a Bipartisan Landslide may be the only way to get us out of Iraq. THE ONLY WAY!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:07 AM
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1. Dogs... fleas.
nt
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:08 AM
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3. deal....no deal
:shrug:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:37 AM
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12. Dumb...Post
:shrug:
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:08 AM
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2. We have yet to fully know if he indeed has significant bipartisan support.
The only way to know that is during the general election. We'll see.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:09 AM
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4. Please provide evidence that Obama will get "substantial" support from Republicans in the GE.
I don't see any of our candidates getting substantial support from Republicans in the general election. I think we'll win based on turnout, increased Democratic party affiliation, and independent voters.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:13 AM
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6. I've personally seen evidence
among people I know who usually vote repug, but are supporting Obama this time around.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:19 AM
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9. Anecdotal evidence isn't proof of a nationwide trend.
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 11:20 AM by TwilightZone
Most of the head-to-head polls show a split along party lines. Our candidates are ahead in the head-to-heads largely because more people are identifying themselves as Democrats at the moment than before, and independents are leaning Democratic. Thus far, there is little evidence that Republicans are going to vote for Obama (or any of our candidates) in substantial numbers.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:52 AM
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14. What you say may be true in Massachusetts,
but I don't see such movement in North Carolina. Some of my Republican friends are "considering" voting for Edwards if he gets the nomination; but I have not heard one say he or she was for Obama or Hillary.

I assume Massachusetts will go Democratic no matter who our nominee is. If the popular vote counted for anything, more independent and some Republican movement in our direction would be encouraging. But such is not the case.

Obama will probably sweep our primaries in the South; but I doubt he will win the general election down here. In fact, I fear there is a good chance we will lose marginal House seats and contested Senate seats. He has great appeal to the base; but the party, which is in the minority down here, has our votes anyway, no matter who gets the nomination.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:10 AM
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5. Repubs have not shown much interest in bipartisanship to Pelosi or Reid, what makes you think
they will work with Obama?

Just asking.....
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:14 AM
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7. Coatails and a popular mandate
we might pick up some seats and their is enough support among moderate Republicans.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:32 AM
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10. What coattails would Obama bring? And we picked up our huge gains in 2006, not much left
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 11:32 AM by Carrieyazel
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:34 AM
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11. Several GOP Senate seats are possible
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:14 AM
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8. Triangulation is a proven winner.
Worked for Bill Clinton.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:40 AM
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13. Uh Obama voted to fund war in 2007, also voted for extending Patriot Act--Hope (but verify) so you
won't be disappointed. If corporations want to keep us in Iraq we will stay. If corporations want to spy on us we will be spied upon. Check out Obama contributors.

We need to fight corporations, not worship candidates.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:00 PM
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15. You really do need GOP votes in the Senate to end the war in Iraq
It may be uncourageous, but having GOP votes inoculates you from harm in the next midterms.
would be far easier if the GOP and the DEMS could hide behind a landlside eletion and Obama is the most likely candidate to deliver the landslide.
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